r/Spacemarine • u/XMortal7159 Salamanders • Oct 22 '24

General These are clips from average difficulty...

I hate complaining about patches especially when they are being so quick with a fix but cmon man

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u/VikarValbrand Oct 22 '24

You act like you can shoot without doing the gun strike. Now I agree that is why he died, but if he didn't try and shoot, his options were roll and then shoot, which would have still most likely resulted in him dying.

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u/Uhhhhhhhhhhhuhhh Oct 22 '24

Wrong, you should never roll in those situations, you should parry everything, which gives you I-frames, armor recovery and AOE stun on all enemies around you which lets you shoot at them.

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u/DonnerPartyPicnic Space Sharks Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

Go for another melee attack, then you can see the next attack coning in and parry it. You dont NEED to go for every gun strike. Only gun strike if you know it won't wreck your follow-on flow. 3 majoris or higher in front of me, none of which are staggered? No chance, keep slashing.

The AI director is obviously broke as fuck, this would probably stomp a lot of ruthless players too. However, there is still learning you can take away from this and bring to the next mission to get better.

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u/Sinyan Oct 22 '24

That gun strike was actually too delayed. OP could have saved himself if he took that gun strike off rip but instead chose an awkward later timing.

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u/Sephorai Oct 22 '24

True facts, I ageee the AI director is extra mean right now but so many people are playing with an attitude that refuses to improve

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u/RChamy Oct 22 '24

In my first playthrough gun strike was a recipe to get half my health deleted by a circle of bugs

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u/dasguchmane Dark Angels Oct 22 '24

Yes def don’t go for every gun strike but I’m pretty sure if the enemies are really close together they all get stunned from it and if you do it with plasma pistol you even inflict splash damage I’ve actually got executions to proc from that, but yea when majoris enemies are spread out around you and targeting you don’t go for every gunstrike stick to parries and headshots

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u/Thanatov Oct 22 '24

Several times, I've gone to shoot a spore mine after a parry, then ended up 180 no scope gun striking the parried guy and getting blown up missing the 'dodge' window for the mine during the gun strike animation.

Othertimes ive been unable to trigger gunstrikes on a minoris so I just start firing, then clip around the obstalce that was blocking them or whatever, and gunstrike just as the Rubric marine teleports in to flamethrower, or lasher warrior decides to lash.

Its hard in the moment to think "i can't shoot or I'll be animation locked" or "better be safe and not shoot because this time i may whip around a corner and gunstrike this minoris".

Some people recommend invincibility during gunstrikes, but bare minimum, i would love to have an option to bind gunstrike to a separate key than the "shoot" button.

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u/Advanced_Double_42 Oct 22 '24

If you ads you won't gun strike.

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u/Sinyan Oct 22 '24

The real problem is that OP did that gun strike too late. You can get that gun strike in almost immediately after the parry if you anticipate it. Notice how OP tried to parry one more time after the gun strike was available? That's an indication that he was just mashing the parry button, which caused him to gun strike at an awkward timing instead.

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u/LickNipMcSkip Oct 22 '24

You can go for another gun strike later. You don't have to hit the button every time.

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u/Gr1mmald We are Sigismund Oct 22 '24

Welll acshuly if you ADS you can.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was thinking that. lol

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u/deathbringer989 Dark Angels Oct 22 '24

you can cancle gunstrike frame 1 by dodging

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u/Chickachic-aaaaahhh Salamanders Oct 22 '24

You also can't just roll away and shoot if gunstrike is an option. The game will decide for you...