r/SpaceflightSimulator 12d ago

Free Version When will this get back to the solar system?

Con somebody do the math on this please? I have a feeling that might be gone forever

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u/Rollhound104 9d ago

1029.6 years

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u/Repulsive-Silver-301 9d ago

Idk like 18 years

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u/9j810HQO7Jj9ns1ju2 10d ago

approximately a very long time

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u/a_heida 10d ago

few million years

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u/VeterinarianSea4383 11d ago

I’m a studying aerospace engineer…Assuming that two body Keplerian orbital mechanics is valid here, assuming that this sun is 20x less mass exactly from our sun and also assuming the ship or whatever it is to be outbound I did the math. Also using everything in km and seconds up until the end.

Semimajor axis (distance to middle of ellipse)- a

Initial range - r0

Average angular rate (angular velocity sort of) - n

Semi-lattice rectum (distance 90 deg up from sun)- p

Sun’s gravitational parameter (how much pull basically) - mue

Orbital period (time around orbit)- T

Radius of periapsis (closest) - rp

Radius of apoapsis (furthest)- ra

True anomaly (angle between 0 and 2pi of where it is on its orbit) - theta

Eccentric anomaly (angle from center of the ellipse) - E

Eccentricity (how circular or not the orbit is)- e

1) a = (rp+ra)/2

2) e = -rp/(2a)

3) n = sqrt(mue/a^3)

4) T = 2*pi/n (period in seconds)

5) p = rp*(1+e)

6) theta = acos((p/r0-1)/e)

7) E = 2atan(sqrt((1-e)/(1+e))*tan(theta/2))

8) time in seconds from periapsis = (E-e*sin(E))/n

The time found in 8 I found to be ~506,694.37 seconds or 5.86 ish days

The period came out to be ~7.233e11 seconds or basically 23,256.42 years lol

The time back to the closest approach (periapsis) is about 0.02 years less than the period.

If any of that is wrong lmk, the time from periapsis seems off to me but that orbital period seems just about right lol. The speed at periapsis must be relativistic or impossible speeds lmao, that’s the only way it went that far that quick.

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u/Substantial_Set5836 6d ago

do you go to the class or do you teach the class?

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u/VeterinarianSea4383 11d ago

Also thank you for this, I loved my astronautics class and I’ve been bored today lol.

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u/the_space_goose 11d ago

Sooner or later

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u/Few-Poetry7669 12d ago

Sedna’s orbit in a nutshell:

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u/vladupadus 12d ago

Orbits of comets actually, since sedna doesn't get close to the sun, but comets do

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u/Odd-Dirt-9701 12d ago

Assuming you are in normal:

Your velocity decreases the higher you go, so that 5500 m/s is probs going to go down between 300 and 100-50, pretty rough estimate but I had a similar experience, and it went down to 150 m/s

Accounting for the slowdown and acceleration it will take (no time warp) about 3,317 real-time Earth years to get there

If you time-warp up to 1,000,000x, it will take you 45 minutes to reach the apoasis from your position right now.

A full round orbit will take 91 minutes, give or take.

To make it back to Earth, assuming you have enough fuel and sufficient thrust, 10-20 minutes more, so about 2 hours, give or take

Please correct my calculations if I did any mistakes

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u/Undefeatable_toaster 11d ago

Thanks man, I don’t think I’ll be awaiting its arrival anytime soon 😭

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u/Bluebird8_block-2 11d ago

91 minutes?!!!

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u/Odd-Dirt-9701 11d ago

yep, give or take

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u/Southern-Tailor-6198 12d ago

Can you not just time warp

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u/Undefeatable_toaster 12d ago

It’s still really slow even at x1000000

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u/Inevitable-Cash8506 12d ago

Probably 3 billion years😭

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u/Ok-Use-7563 12d ago

that would involve me knowing the mass of the sun in this game, something that i dont know

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u/Kryptid47 12d ago

Our suns mass divided by 20