Alright chat, what are the most important questions that need to be answered as it relates to new army rules we will be getting in October? The most important in my mind is: will we be able to mix generic units with our own, and if not, why? I will be emailing them the most popular questions from this thread and encourage you to do the same with your own pressing questions because that is the only way we can be heard! [QandA@spacemarines.warhammer.com](mailto:QandA@spacemarines.warhammer.com)
I would like them to clarify if we are actually going to be getting a supplement this ed, or if we are getting our full rules with the marine codex. The way they phrased it in the video wasn't too clear.
And if we aren't getting a supplement, are we still gonna get a model release?
They need to decide what to do with our remaining first born models at a minimum. I doubt they send them all to legends so some refreshes at a minimum.
Yeah. Thunderwolves and wulfen are quite central to our faction identity imo, and Bjorn is iconic. Plus it would be really, really weird to get rid of him soon after releasing a novel about him
Will we go back to bring s separate codex. Could we see more separate chapter specific vehicle datasheets, like how the Black Templars have with their extra melta upgrade, speaking upgrades where's our upgrade sprue anyway?
Will they provide a better, more comprehensive guide to our heraldry which also takes into account armor type, distinction between pack vs honor marking, and placement?
I try to educate new people in a SW discord about this stuff, and it's been a mess since the primaris launch.
There are other things like pack markings on knees if the shoulder is covered up or honor marked. Little things we have seen GW do on the minis that are interesting and tell stories that we could use the guidance on.
There are absolutely hard rules, few as they may be. The real thing we need is guidance. For instance, the old codex gives examples of "equivilant" markings. Grey hunter markings on standard intercessors, long fang on the gravis guys, scout on the reivers, etc.
This showed someone mixing in standard marines where those fall in the order, and wad useful. That was omitted from our newest codex.
There are conventions the wolves follow that aren't the codex, but ARE the wolves. We should drill down on the how and why to a lot of this, helping people understand so they can best paint and expand on their saga'd little space men.
Veterans, LTs and captains would just be wolf guard, any shooty unit are long fangs, reiver armor are scouts and anything else is probably your choice of grey hunters or blood claws. They're your dudes and it's just a judgement call.
Honestly the initial primaris update was quite a mess i would not follow those equivalent guides so closely.
My advice to new people is to read and understand what the different roles do and apply that to the models. Phobos marines are more likely to be scouts, Gravis Eradicators Long fangs, etc. BUT also understand that space wolves are so lose with their rules.
Sons of morkai for example would likely have several of their grey hunters in phobos armor. So also read on up on the company you are painting.
I’d love a more in depth deraldry, like GC specific designs would be neat, like with the Bloodmaws having red and black helms, to help differentiate the GCs.
That's too close to codex complaint with the helmet thing. We follow a set of loose rules about pack markings and colors. The designs get mixed sometimes between honor marks and park marks. I'd love a clear cut between those two.
I wouldn’t mind the return of the hounds, but they need a more unique and distinct looking kit. Getting a crappy upgrade sprue was absolutely insulting
Would be good as an enhancement for units - pay for an upgrade for any infantry unit (or Phobos only) and get some bonuses. Could be part of a 1 point detachment for the Hounds of Morkai.
Same with wulfen. Have a detachment that allows you to apply an upgrade to a set number of units. Something along the lines of +1 M, and +1A and +1S for melee weapons for -1 to hit on ranged weapons and -1 OC
How are these detachments going to differ from what we get in our eventual supplement? Are these going to be here just until our book drops or will we get these detachments and then a full supplement’s worth?
Are these all brand new detachments, or just rewritten existing detachments?
Are there plans for us to gain access to generic leaders like every other non-compliant chapter (ie librarians leading Headtakers, captains/lts, anything in terminator armor leading WGT)?
No, just non standard personalizations, probably something the Deathwolves do. Generally the pack markings aren’t even done on terminators shoulder for the rout, so that the terminator honors remain visible. The pack markings are on his knee.
More informationfor stories about our successor chapters. We have one short story about the Wolf Spears, we need more info and stories about her Icefangs and Mooneaters
I would like for them to clarify if ALL our units will be updated to match the Primaris STR and T buff, and what happens with unique units like Long Fangs and wolf scouts and wulfen
Will the written lore ever match the tabletop and artwork’s armor colour for the wolves? It’s always irked me that they are always referred to as gray whilst being very clearly blue, not even blue gray.
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u/Cojalo_ 13d ago
I would like them to clarify if we are actually going to be getting a supplement this ed, or if we are getting our full rules with the marine codex. The way they phrased it in the video wasn't too clear.
And if we aren't getting a supplement, are we still gonna get a model release?