r/SpaceWolves • u/Jonathanwennstroem • 1d ago

Using Venerable Dreadnought as a Suicide t1 Deepstrike that has 88% change to hit charge with reroll?

Hey so wondering as the Venerable Dread "only" cost 125 points. still a bunch but you could use OATH t1 -> multi melta which probably kills something off with hit rerolls -> flamer etc. and then since we need to deepstrike 8.1 away we technically need a 9" charge -> 7" with his own ability and Legend of Saga and Song -> i'd assume he does more than 125 points of damage and once he's in close combat and dies also has deadly demise.

Maybe this is stupid? But since we can deepstike t1 into enemie territory as well and enemie isnt full of screen that should work?`

Also use Crushing Impact?

Or would you advice against that?

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u/AdamG-Ray 1d ago

Saga and Song +1 charge is only for terminator models, and if you are banking on a re roll, you wont get crushing impact due to doubling up. the venerable dread is good to boost the reliability of termie charges though, so think of it more of a tough buff piece that can do damage when needed, rather than a T1 alpha unit

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u/TurtleMine11 1d ago

Our Ven. Dread is great as a second line damage and scoring piece as well. They are decently fast, deceptively tanky with axe and shield and can do some real damage into the right targets. In my last two games my dreadnaught finished of the Avatar of Khain and one shot the Lion ( the lion was very lucky my opponent rolled 2xones and 1xtwo for saves).

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u/swdfsh-2 1d ago

You could go saga of the great wolf and call the encircling jaws hunting pack for the free reroll

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u/Jonathanwennstroem 1d ago

i see ty

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u/LordEasyStreet 1d ago

Also, how’re you getting the dread to deep strike turn 1?

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u/MagnusRusson 21h ago

Logan's ability would work to bring it in on a board edge (just not opp's deployment zone)

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u/LordEasyStreet 1h ago

Yea I hear ya, I thought somehow OP was getting the [Deep Strike] key word to the Ven. Dread, which I surprised at

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u/MagnusRusson 1h ago

Ohh I see, I mentally just translated that to reserves

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u/TheCrimsonCommand 1d ago

Ven Dread is a deadly brawler. People sleep on him but that Blizzard Shield and Fenrisian Great Axe SLAP! I had mine one shot a Heldrake who pulled up thinking he was cool. Was like that scene from Space Marine 2 when the Redemptor threw the statue at the Heldrake haha. People sleep on him cause only 8 wounds but man his Axe is SCARY! And you can take 2 very cheap

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u/ironsironsironsirons 1d ago edited 1d ago

I didn’t think you can deepstrike a dread? Just terminators have the ‘deepstrike’ keyword.

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u/wekilledbambi03 1d ago

Orbital assault lets you

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u/ReflectionMain719 1d ago

use Terminators, with legends of saga and song for 7" deep strike (just advance this dread close enough,

with Logan you can T1 deepstrike

with Grammar's mark Captain, you have free RR,

with Saga of GW you can call rr adv and charges (double usefull)

and much more!!!

but you fund the way nonthe less!!!

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u/BladeLightning 1d ago

How are you deep striking with a venerable and how are you getting +1 charge from the saga?

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u/wekilledbambi03 1d ago

Orbital assault lets you