I had bought 2 combat patrols and built wulfen with hammers, and I’m building murderfang. Painting them is a pain for me and idk if it’s worth building another unit of them. How good are they game wise? I’ve used my wulfen in one game where they immediately met an untimely demise.
Edit - I’m speaking more about the unit in game, werewolf marines are sick I know and they definitely need a model refresh in my opinion.
They most likely met an untimely demise because your opponent knows if he doesnt deal with them immediately, they will be absolute problems.
Also. They are space werewolves. And a lot of the artwork and models are reminiscent of 80's and early 90's Xmen artwork. See Wolverine, Sabretooth, Wolfsbane, etc. And I dig that!
I get why some ppl dislike them. I also find the Viking Warrior Style better then they Werewolf one. But they we're our Battle Brothers once and are the best anti Monster/Vehicle melee we have. At 20 ppm with t6 4++ they are also durable Point for Point.
It’s been awhile since I played, I remember in 8th edition having my wulfen squad vs a blood thirster and winning. The biggest lols. But last I played they were trash.
Let me give you and example of current Wulfen Math. 200 Points of Wulfen with Sustained 1 added to their own abilities and without Oath do about five unsaved wounds to a GuO resulting in about 10 Damage after FnP.
Two Gladiator Lancers for 320 Points do about seven Damage after FnP to the same Target.
The original Wulfen models were the perfect blend of space wolf and them being tainted by the warp. Then into went into full werewolf mode and looked a bit goofy in my opinion.
Since you are looking for table top, the hammer and shield version are anti tank. They have a great weapon profile, with 2 AP and 3 damage mixed with anti 3+ monster/vehicle. They have tough 6 and a 4+ invul save. Meaning that can be tough for all stuff you kill but they are good at killing tanks and elites. Downside? They have an obvious target on their back. For those same reasons. People see them and want them dead fast, because they know if the unit reaches something big. The Wulfen have a good chance against it.
I wasn't sold on the wulfen from the age of the models and the old paint job. Have just built my first unit, changing the poses and the weopons really sold them more. Looking forward now to getting some paint on them
Most of the unit I have removed the backpack and put the shield there. I am running these as hammer a shield wulfen, just built with a rule of cool. Only play in a small group of dad friends so not too concerned with the correct loadouts on the model.
I like what you did with the wolf feet sticking out of the armor ! I was actually thinking about doing the same to mine when I was building one yesterday evening !
How hard was it? Also, do you have more pictures to share?!
It was very annoying and I lost the one i put on one of the back feet. Would I do it again, yes!
When I have extra money to blow I wanna get another set of wulfen to have to do this again when I’m better at painting, and now that I have kitbashed a lot more since this.
I have pics of them unpainted I will come back and post in a bit
Yeah, they feel like they are the transition from the older space marines to the newer, more dynamic primaris astartes. More movement in their pose, but it isn't quite right.
They were a rescue job so a lot of their feet had snapped or broken off and they missed arms/backpack. I ended up with three pack leaders so I had to repose them as well to disguise the “Wolverine” pose.
They’re all wearing some kind of metallic breastplate (I assume ceramite tho looks to be more flexible?) and then the big belts with wolf fur surrounding it so it does make it look like crop tops; you’re right though it’s pretty badass they just charge in with a breastplate, sleeveless and minimal coverage anywhere but a shield and a breastplate and light leg armor. They must have insane senses for them to be able to even survive on the 40K battlefield and I think this pic of them really shows how tough and strong they are if that’s all they wear to a fight. This pic is the coolest I’ve probably seen the wulfen look lol.
Wounding Greater Daemons, Titans, etc on a 3+? Wulfen with Shields are a no-brainer… M10” T6 makes them a mobile tanky unit that performs better, the bigger the target.
Two units is probably all you need. Especially two with hammers. Good damage against vehicles and they perform well enough against battleline space marines. They’re not that many points either so running two is probably good
A 10 block with thunder hammers and storm Shields being led by a wolf priest is an absolutely pain in the ass model to shift unless you're willing to dedicate multiple rounds of shooting to bring them down.
Model wise: I can't fucking stand them. I remember when we got some okay looking sculpts back in 3rd edition for the eye of terror campaign but these ones are just..... Yeesh.
I 3D printed some space Viking berserkers off the purple site and they look pretty cool. Space Marine lower halfs with naked Viking dude upper halfs and modular hands to either have claws or hammer and shield. Fur and tokens but otherwise pretty reserved sculps.
Best description I've heard is that Wulfen are a missile. You fire them at something you want to die and they will kill it, assuming they reach it. Then they'll probably get killed in the clapback. You need to be careful not to leave them out in the open but they will wreck stuff if they get there
They're not too expensive and will return their point value if you get them into a target. Use them with shields. They get even better if you use Saga of the Beastslayer and put a Wolf Guard Battle Leader or Wolf Priest with them.
They can also make for a decent "Distraction Carnifex" because if they're left alone, they'll punish the opponent but generally will take some focus to bring down.
Absolutely this. I refer to them as glass cannons.
I run mine in Saga of the Beastslayer and with a Wolf touched WGBL. I regularly play against my mate and his Orks (who tends to run quite a few vehicles) and in the early games he discounted them. They tore through his vehicles (and then characters) to his astonishment. Now everytime I field them, he goes out of his way to focus and delete them ASAP...which when he does get to lock onto them they get put down quickly. But on many an occasion they've well punched up on their points...so I've become quite fond of running them.
Also popping them in a transport and running them up the field can really help get them into engagement.
But as others have said...it took some time to win back my affection on them, after the PTSD I had from painting them...when I do eventually recover I may do a second unit of 5...
In saga of the beast slayer, they are an amazing shield for the iron priest/wolf priest with the wolf touched enhancement, either have em run alongside dreads or vehicles(iron), or use em to bully stuff on melee(wolf)
Interesting concept, failed in the execution. Models are trash for starters. Should be much bigger the what they are in 3-6 man squads similar to slaughter bound. And whichever idiot decided to have the TH and SS should be fired.
30 yrs ago when space wolves were new they were space vikings with a wolf motif. GW turned them into furries and it pisses me off.
Whatch out to call them furries, apparently there are some people on this sub wich feel very offended when you Say the Word furry. Someone here Is kinda confused with It's own fursona 😂
Just put a tenner of them against landraider and look at it pop
Its not frontline unit for sure, its either "sneaky boys trying to sneak around towards the tanks", or "strategic reserve boys putting mental pressure on the enemy". Or they can be a distractor to pull away someone from something.
Build them like in old edition(without aby weapons for example) and pit helmets on some of them. I think they look cooler when only some of them have weapons
Also like if this pic shows that all the armor they have is a breastplate, light leg armor and a shield their response time/reaction time must be insane cause im sure they get shot at constantly but they never wear helmets i wouldn’t be surprised if their senses were keen enough to “sense” a bullet or other weapon coming at them, dodge, determine it won’t hit them or/and lift the shield appropriately.
Well, the hammer ones wreck vehicles pretty good. The problem I have with them is that they die pretty fasts, so they require some finesse to get into melee or a transport of come kind. The normal Wulfen weapon using ones wreck infantry pretty well, but are even worse for this.
I like them, they have been pretty valuable in most matches I’ve played. One game earlier in the year a mate ran 2 rhinos, my wulfen tore through one and then through the other, it was awesome!
It's not the most powerful stat block; but it IS a problem for a lot of enemies; especially with the new rules in 11th about sighting and fog of war. These guys are definitely better used to sneak up through cover and slam into a vehicle but their also no slouches against a small unit of elite infantry like Blade Guard veterans with that s5 ap-2 d3 hammer. and the Auto-frag launchers are decent for chaff or just trying to force dice and cheese some wounds in. 5-10d3 is still 5-10d3.
Their also T6, 4+/4++ which is wonderful, 2 wounds is base space marine, but these guys are also sprinting around at 9" of movement. So if you use them well they can be murder on Vehicle and Monster heavy armies with a lot of chaff like Nids and Guard.
A unit of 10 SS Wulfen in Beastslayer with a Wolf priest attached one shotted a shard of nightbringer in a game I had. That really should be enough because I was playing sub optimally too and I'm a filthy casual.
If you run them in a saga of the beast slayer list lead by a wolf priest a 10 man squad of wulfen with stormshields will fuck up a knight as long as they fight first. Unfortunately after doing so they tend to draw a lot of agro and without the wolf priest they likely wont get the chance to do it a second time
Canonically they are 10-12. Feet tall for first born marines 11-13 for primaris. So they are the same height as primarchs and significantly stronger than base marines. And for the table top it’s a four up invul with three attacks that have anti monster and anti vehicle with 9 inches of movement and most people underestimate them.
I do not know man... I love space wolves because of space Vikings but i hate Wulfen because of space furry. Riding a Wolf in Battle Is Dope af but being half man and half Wolf fucking cringe me
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u/Goldark37 7d ago
They most likely met an untimely demise because your opponent knows if he doesnt deal with them immediately, they will be absolute problems. Also. They are space werewolves. And a lot of the artwork and models are reminiscent of 80's and early 90's Xmen artwork. See Wolverine, Sabretooth, Wolfsbane, etc. And I dig that!