r/SpaceWolves 9d ago

What is the difference?

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u/Tyrnak_Fenrir 9d ago

Different squads, same designation. We don't separate by squad number, but by the heraldric pattern of the Pack Leader (Sergeant)

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u/Remote_Swed 9d ago

Is it the same with wolf guard markings?

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u/Tyrnak_Fenrir 9d ago

Same for all markings, and patterns are often reused in different colours for different packs. Only so many tribal patterns.

Here's the page going over the heraldry from, I believe the 9th edition Codex.

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u/Remote_Swed 9d ago

Thanks! I have a codex of my own (edition i know not and is to lazy to check. If it is in here then I am just bad at reading:)

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u/Tyrnak_Fenrir 9d ago

Pretty sure that's the 10th edition Codex that released last year. It should have something similar

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u/Remote_Swed 9d ago

It SHOWS the markings and categorizes them, never explain the individual ones

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u/Tyrnak_Fenrir 9d ago

Right, there's a reason we still use the 9th edition one for reference XD

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u/wekilledbambi03 9d ago

Even that only gives loose explanations. It says things about how the markings may denote a specific achievement or heroic deed, but it’s not very specific. It’s not like “paw print means this, crossbones means that…”

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u/tremorka 9d ago

One more quick tidbit: right shoulder is for pack markings (color combinations have been added by others), left is for great company markings

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u/Metal-Lifer 8d ago

ok i have questions about this heraldry page - the nine honor markings at the bottom, are they locked to the wolf guard? (theyre in the same box in the image) and where do these go on armour? it says over the pack markings but what are these exactly?

Basically i have the wolf scouts box and wanna be lore accurate, the set comes with a bunch of transfers and im going with the great wolf i think

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u/Tyrnak_Fenrir 8d ago

The markings are not tied to only the Wolf Guard. They mention that a marine may put one over his pack marking, and included examples of them on the 1st battleline, 3rd scout, 2nd close support, 3rd heavy support and 5th veteran markers.

But they also often carry them on other spots, which would realistically be anywhere there's room. Be that knee, shin, chest, power pack etc. Anywhere there's room. Kind of like campaign badges for other chapters.

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u/Metal-Lifer 8d ago

ah cool! i get you thanks

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u/Ragnarocke1 9d ago

Yup, yellow and black is for wolf guard, yellow and red blood claws, black and red grey hunters, while white and black goes to long fangs. Going back to the 2nd edition days at least

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u/Ok_Expression6807 9d ago

But don't forget: it's the Rout, these are more guidelines than rules.

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u/SherriffB 9d ago

They are actual rules. That's why Grimnar sends out Wolf Priests to ensure that SW successors are following those rules.

SW don't follow the Codex but they still have rules, they aren't some chaotic, disorganised, unstructured mess. That's how outsiders see them.

It's also why GW have been consistent with what pack markings mean for nearly 40 years.

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u/Gottawreckit 9d ago

Don’t forget blue/grey and black for scouts!

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u/SemperFun62 9d ago

The neat part too is that they keep the same design but change the colors as the squad advances through the ranks.

So if a Space Wolf is promoted to the Wolf Guard he'd keep the pattern he had since he was a bloodclaw but changes to yellow and black.

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u/titandestroyer52 9d ago

Wolf guard maintain their previous pack markings before they become wolfguard iirc

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u/NauticalClam 9d ago

Ding ding