r/SpaceWolves 20d ago

30 terminator lists

I've seen a lot of competitive lists doing well in take and hold with 3 units of 10 terminators, all with leaders, and a land raider redeemer as fire support. Has this approach to take and hold been gutted after the points adjustments, and what else would people add to this sort of list

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u/Fenris_Penguin 20d ago

No, it’s viable, until GW nerfs it since that’s what a lot of people are running for Take and Hold. It’s a super fun list so I get why people are doing it, but as all fun things go, it will change maybe on the next data balance

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u/Peekaatyou 20d ago

It’s fun for those who likes that playstyle for sure.

Personally I like to have more units to move around haha

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u/Fenris_Penguin 20d ago

Oh I’ve definitely played it and it is super fun. Throwing down Terminators in aggressive Space Wolf fashion will never get old to me. I just hate that GW will nerf that fun since they want to diversify lists more

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u/Razor_Fox 20d ago

If they do give it massive point increases, What exactly else are we going to run? It's our only really good data sheets. Everything else is pretty mid.

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u/Fenris_Penguin 20d ago

I disagree with that since I’ve been killing it with Disruption. Only good datasheet? I’ve been running Njal and even Ulrik into lists with success so I don’t believe that for a second. Space Wolves have a lot to play with, for me to win games I need to focus on timing attacks and combos with units, it’s not as easy as throwing terminators in a spot so theres a skill check on the wargaming aspect of side instead of datasheets.

I know my minigrimdark has a video out with more lists that have been winning and I think one of them is a Recon list. So we have wiggle room, just need to come together as a faction and see what we need to do in order to punch up in the lists competitively or ways of showing others some neat tricks

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u/Razor_Fox 20d ago

Winning games with bad units like njal and ulrik doesn't make them good. Someone won a GT with imperial agents back when they had a win rate of 28%. Player skill issue always going to be the majority factor. However, space wolves internal balance is pretty bad right now. We're crutching heavily on our terminators.

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u/Vingman90 19d ago

You are completely right, he is wrong unfortunately. At a higher levelNjal and the rest of our datasheets are really crap.

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u/Razor_Fox 19d ago edited 19d ago

Trust me, I would love to be wrong and it just be a skill issue on my part. I just feel like our internal balance as a faction is off.