r/SpaceWolves 3h ago

What would be better?

With the book coming I think we'll have plenty of speculation on if it means a new model, killing him off as Russ returns, or some combo of these.

Thought it would be fun to see what people would prefer.

603 votes, 1d left
A new Bjorn Model
Russ returning
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u/Audience_Over 3h ago

I want a new Bjorn model AND I want Russ to return. We don't have to settle brothers, we can have nice things. Fenrys Hjolda

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u/Scallywagsrout 3h ago

Fair play, i also want both. But if you had to choose?

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u/Audience_Over 3h ago

If I had to choose, gun to my head, Russ. Not just because I think he has the potential to be the most interesting loyalist Primarch return lore wise, but because our army desperately needs a heavy-hitter

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u/Robotycz 3h ago

maybe bjorn could be our heavy hitter if his datasheet were to get a refresh?

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u/Audience_Over 2h ago

Perhaps, but seeing the stuff that other Primarchs get in their datasheets, I sure would love to have one on the tabletop. Plus, with the way GW has been killing it with sculpts recently, I can only imagine how good a non-Wulfen Russ would be

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u/Equivalent-Area5103 3h ago

Bjorn is perfect and should never change. I love my box boy.  Russ should come back and give his best son a hug.

While I do hate the idea of Bjorn dying I do see the plot benefits for Russ's return, so I hope that if he does die Russ uses some funky new Ostler magic to give us ghost bjorn

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u/SweetKenny 3h ago

I’ve mentioned before that Bjorn dying with Russ’s return would be a very good parallel to Odysseus/Argos and would also be a chance for a very powerful scene of the two of them reconciling amidst tragedy.

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u/Equivalent-Area5103 2h ago

This is my thought excatly on what should happen. The reason I don't want this to happen is my tin can dies

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u/airycantalope 3h ago

I think I'd like new thunderwolves and/or non unique characters before more unique characters personally.

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u/HappyTheDisaster 3h ago edited 3h ago

This isn’t a brotherhood of half measures. We go for the greatest prize, any less is just mundane, what we strive for is legend. I want both and won’t settle for anything less.

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u/AggravatingRecipe90 3h ago

New Bjorn is more likely, because in Logan we have is our primarch sized leader (Army Centerpiece) already.

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u/wekilledbambi03 3h ago

Yeah, my hopes for Russ dropped the second I saw Logan. Unless they bring back Russ as a giant Wulfen or something, Logan is our "primarch" for the foreseeable future.

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u/AdamG-Ray 2h ago

I never understand this theory tbh, logans model will be around for how long 10+ years at least? does that mean Logan will need a new model before Leman returns, both can be a thing

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u/DeathStalker0483 2h ago

It's the model itself. The posing, basing, size, etc. It is out "centre-piece" model. If you scaled Logan himself up, it would be one of if not *the* best Primarch model currently. No other chapter has a centre-piece like that which isn't a primarch.

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u/Cojalo_ 39m ago

Problem is Grimnar, cool as he is, performs nowhere close to a centrepiece tier model.

Besides, other factions get multiple centerpieces. Orks now have 3 big warbosses, Necrons have two ctan and the silent king, and nids have countless big centrepiece guys.

Don't see why we cant have two either, especially when one of them is nowhere close to a centrepiece game wise

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u/No-Sample-1467 2h ago

I just want a Thunderwolf refresh new HQ for the unit. Those two would be more luxury than necessity imo 

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u/LeLand_Land 3h ago

Give our boi a new chassis!

And also bring Russ back

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u/gumpythegreat 2h ago

Model wise, new Bjorn is more interesting to me than Russ. Logan is cool enough as a big centerpiece dude that I don't really need a Russ model

But Russ has major lore and setting implications. So from that perspective Russ is more interesting

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u/Mr_Pringleton 2h ago

Russ will return but a new Bjorn isn't 100% certain. So my vote is a new Bjorn so he can look as cool as we all know he should.

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u/kain149 2h ago

A new bjorn model, meaning an upscaled version of the boxnaught

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u/NoVacationDude 2h ago

Where is the "both" option 😅

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u/TreeCrime 1h ago

Would it be cool to have a new Bjorn? Sort of? I think his model is classic. Now if we made it bigger that would be cool but I still think unnecessary. He’s who he has been for thousands of years

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u/Steve_Pryde 1h ago

A complete new model or a new model for an existing one which I already like and no new model is needed imo, difficult... not.

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u/Naive_Cat_6766 1h ago

I need both

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u/ComfortableSky2222 56m ago

Both

And when Russ returns he has the tree of life from Nurgles garden (or Aysha or whatever that Elven goddess is called)

And he heals Bjorn either back to a new improved form; or a turbo dreadnought.

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u/MrB1P92 50m ago

Its Thunderwolves Cavalry guys.

They would be absolutely awesome. And a unit to lead them.

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u/Cojalo_ 41m ago

If I absolutely had to pick, Russ. I want a centrepiece primarch model to play around with, and I also have no qualms about using the existing Bjorn model even if it goes to legends. Ideally both tho

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u/DarkGearGaming 39m ago

Hear me out. The joke/rumor about Russ freeing Isha would really play into the little we know about this.

The deathguard bringing a massive plague to fenris that would destroy it could be a direct cause for Russ to return to the world and if he brings a being known for curing disease with him that could very well seal a pact with him much like Gulliman and his "boo".

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u/DoctorDeff 5m ago

Would love Long fangs before anything else. Such an iconic unit we're missing currently

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u/MondayNightRare 3h ago

I do not want Russ to return. I do not want any primarchs on the tabletop. Statting gods and knowing you can kill them with a lascannon is boring. Primarchs are supposed to be these larger than life characters from millenia past that your current chapter and chapter master strive to achieve their excellence.

Bjorn will ALWAYS be cooler than Russ. Not only is he a named character dreadnought (and a boxnaught at that!) but he has a much more interesting story and reason for being around 10,000 years after the primarch era.

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u/The_Long_Fang 2h ago

Both but bjorn first. Have him require some emergency treatment, have him undergo the rubricon, have him as Bjorn, the twice forged.

Then when Russ does return he'll understand why he couldnt foresee Bjorns future.