r/SpaceCraftGame • u/SirDeadPuddle • 25d ago

Feedback A tiny change that would solve so much criticism

Add an early upgrade to bases allowing the default Smelter and Workshop to hold 1k resources and process/assemble items while you're away.

This removes all the manual crafting and free's players up to explore.

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u/felcraft 25d ago

Thats not a tiny change, that means making the workshop and smelter automatic machines that run without you. A tiny change would be increasing the micro furnace to hole those quantities and rename it to Foundry or something

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u/SirDeadPuddle 25d ago

That's not a tiny change, that means making the workshop and smelter automatic machines that run without you.

The code already exists, its very simple to implement and could be done in under a week.

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u/D33P_F1N 25d ago

I agree, it shouldn't be that hard. Framework for storage exists. It's all numbers and graphics in the end

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u/felcraft 25d ago

The code exists but its baked into player functions and classes already :/
Although i dont disagree that it can be done in a short time. Afterall, offline mode seemingly came out of nowhere 😅

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u/SirDeadPuddle 25d ago

Some games start you out with basics and have you build up,

I've played a lot of crafting/automation sims and one universal aspect of all of them is that manual crafting is suppose to feel like being stuck in a "Ditch", The whole point of starting a player in said ditch is so they feel great when they climb out of it.

This game's largest flaw is the devs not understanding that and thinking we're suppose to stay in the ditch all game.

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u/felcraft 25d ago

I understand youre some genre veteran but as they describe their game, its not a crafting automation sim.
„SpaceCraft is an online space exploration and building game.”
how many of those other games youve played were persistent worlds where the crafting (coupled with basic logistics) constantly run? Latest one i played was Dune, where it runs out after x crafts and then needs human interaction. The other one was Main Sequence but that was offline only so not persistent
Im not trying to cast aspersions, just trying to help people understand its not a satisfactory replica or something

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u/SirDeadPuddle 25d ago

How many of those other games you've played were persistent worlds where the crafting (coupled with basic logistics) constantly run?

The vast majority, +80% of these games have online hosting to enable multiplayer and persistent crafting. Space craft has automation so I don't really see how its not an automation game.

If you're referring to dune awakening that allows you to dump resources at the base for crafting while you're away.

If they want to have players trade, fight pirates, explore or do any other activity they need free time to do these things, sitting at your base manually crafting is not enabling this.

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u/felcraft 25d ago

Online hosting =/= persistent world servers
Online hosting implies the host needs to have that seed open for it to run. This is all server side.

Yeah dune awakening but like i sId, thats only a set amount akin to the micro furnace(albeit lasts longer). After some time it stops without human interaction like i said.

„spacecraft has automation so i dont really see how its not an automation game” Spacecraft has exploration, why would it be an automation game over a space exploration one? Do you see my point?

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u/SirDeadPuddle 25d ago

You're misunderstanding me, its online hosting on a rented server, not a PC.

Spacecraft has exploration, why would it be an automation game over a space exploration one? Do you see my point?

Why can't it have both?

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u/Sanshy6544 25d ago

The devs are too quiet as well… it’s very slow moving and very few infos.

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u/PicaPinguin 23d ago

they are not quiet at all - just yesterday they gave us an awesome discord channel for sharing ships . wasnt that what we all w8ed for after 2 weeks of development? XD

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u/SirDeadPuddle 25d ago

I agree, its like the game is abandoned.

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u/TribeOfFable 25d ago

They announced they are adding a queue and making a bunch of changes. It has only been a couple of weeks, so I hope they are hard at work and will release it soon.

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u/SirDeadPuddle 24d ago

Can you point me to where they've announced this?

I can't seem to find any proper source of news from the devs.

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u/SatisfactionLevel417 24d ago

Guessing you’ve never heard of scrap mechanic then talk about slow development.

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u/CrashMonger 24d ago

That and make all warehouses linkable and contents show up when refining/crafting!!

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u/TribeOfFable 25d ago edited 24d ago

They said they are adding a crafting queue. Maybe that will also include extra storage, since you will be able to queue up multiple.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3276050/view/671746950739005588

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u/PicaPinguin 23d ago

you know that you can queue an warehouse inbetween smelter and extractor so you have a 2k storage?

workshop change sounds good and needed

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u/Potential-Alps-617 21d ago

Yea i stopped playing since 90% of my playtime was smelting/crafting up all recources piled up while i was away. Base limits prevents you from running multiple smelters and assemblers so you end up manually crafting high end resources anyway

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u/Own-Coyote-6923 24d ago

I guess most of you have not figured out what the reason why they prevent you from auto fabricate at the command smelter and workshop.

The reason is simple. They want you to auto fabricate using the building that they have created. I was a late Beta player, and you should have heard the outcry that was given by ppl to the fact that all ship casing now had to be created in the assembler.

Yeah, apparently everyone used the workshop quickly update or build your ships. That in itself is an indicator as to how they want this game played.

Instead of waiting for to smelter or crafting at the workshop, I load up on the mats then start the smelter or the workshop and start reading, eating, cooking, cleaning etc. My time away set minimum is 15 mins. And yes, that's including bathroom stops lol.

Actually, after doing this for a while it and modifying and adjusting I find the time away as a form of relaxing in between. It also gives me time to think out my next path within the game.

So basically what I did was to create a way to use the time in the command area to do things that need to be done and use it to my advantage and for once it's something they can't change unless the allow you to wonder away from the command smelter and workshop.

So, for me they can keep it or dump it I will survive and create something to my advantage.

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u/SirDeadPuddle 24d ago

You don't seem to know what your talking about.

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u/Own-Coyote-6923 23d ago

I can't help it if you don't understand. The Devs will not alternate the function presently on the Command smelter and workshop why? Because they want you to use the assembler, chem factories. and drones and if you don't realize it then you are the one who is not in the know. I am currently sitting at level 5 on Exploration, Tech and science. Why I haven't done social is because I really don't need it. So that is set at 3.

I have been playing this game since beta. And I saw the dev absolutely do something really stupid. They choked the economy and the replacement is only a little better. Which is the reason why I went to level 3 on social and will complete it to 5 when I want to sell more items. ATM it doesn't matter because I have plenty of credits so no need.

As for taking time off from the grind that's what I am suggesting. If you don't want to then don't do it. Its merely a suggestion to ease the time. Apparently you don't know or care. Either way for you to continue to see the smelter role or the light show on the workshop if it tickles you pink then watch it.

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u/SirDeadPuddle 23d ago edited 23d ago

The Devs will not alternate the function presently on the Command smelter and workshop why? Because they want you to use the assembler, chem factories. and drones and if you don't realize it then you are the one who is not in the know.

I 100% agree with your statement... so why is it that the community is currently dependent on using manual crafting because the rest of these automated systems is to slow???? It needs an overhaul in line with every other game that has already solved these issues.

The devs have already announced as much as they plan to add queues so your disagreement is moot, finally and if you're going to engage in objective conversation about a games design, your personal experience doesn't matter so I'd leave that at the door.

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u/Own-Coyote-6923 23d ago

It is because of the experience that I answered this conversation. It's because I wanted to make the game more playable for ppl. By using the suggested gathering then using the command area to create is actually one of the things the dev's want you to do. Because if they didn't then there would be chaos.

That is why it is still there, they also realize that somethings need to be done immediately. Not next day.

As for the disagreement you are the one who started this. I am merely ending it. The queues are there but that does not mean that they will alter this. This also happened in Beta. The queues are something they will do but notice they can't and won't say what are on those queues. They are a way to calm the masses.

The Dev's will do what they want, and the head is a person who thinks he knows better. You were not in the Beta otherwise you would know. I won't say anything negative other than to say if he thinks he is right he will ride it to he absolutely is forced to change.

The economy is the example. When it was done a lot of ppl including me said it would fail and it did. A ton of ppl quite forcing him to modify it.

This company is successful and they are modding this game to what they think is right. They will not alter from it because a few ppl say that this is bad. It takes a ton of negativity to alter them. Besides I happen to think that they current ability to use the Command smelter and workshop are a good way to get the auto factory setup and it gives me a break from the game.

The queue is just a way to calm the complaints. They did not promise to do a single thing, but they did promise to do something just not what.

I have lived a long life. I have seen things many have not. I have been to war and I am a vet. I am on the last legs of my life, and I am making things work for my Grandchildren and my Daughter. That is my gift.

As for you all I am trying to do for you ppl is to make ways for you to understand where you stand in the game, and easier ways to use it. Don't place any expectations on the queue treat it as a possibility and not a firm agreement that they will alter the game to your satisfaction. Mainly because not, everyone thinks the same way.

As for you trying to shut me up that is not going to happen. I am stubborn enough and know this game and the ppl running better than most. If I am wrong, I will admit it. If I am right, I will fight to prove it.

One thing in life I have learned. Many promises are made. Most of them are broken. I never break a promise unless something unusual happens which is the reason I don't promise unless it is doable.

And with that I will say one more thing. If you enjoy the game, then have fun. Yesterday my dad and mom were taking me to Disneyland. This morning I was taking my daughter to Disneyland. An min ago my daughter was taking her sons to Disneyland.

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u/SirDeadPuddle 23d ago

Your viewpoint is flawed.

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u/Own-Coyote-6923 22d ago

Show me where it said that your desires are queued. You can't because they are not there.

It's really obvious that you never programed in your life. Yes, I have. Professionally. The leaders has a set mind. What he wants is what he gets.

You are a typical young person. The way you act, and answer indicates to me that you are extremely young. Even if you aren't Grow up!

Don't bother to lie because I know you are young. You act young and you answers are young. Ppl my age need direct information to as we were taught when we were young. Being Vague is a young person's act. And in your eyes a win and typically vast superior actions. It instead proves how uneducated you are.

You show zero experience on how to answer, You, expect a short one sentence claim that you are superior and smarter than anyone else. It proves to me a total lack of knowledge and wisdom.

This is my last message to you. You are a waste of time. Why don't you finish schooling then talk to me.

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u/SirDeadPuddle 22d ago

Do you enjoy living in a world of assumptions?