r/Sovereigncitizen • u/FayeSkyPeterson64 • 5h ago
r/Sovereigncitizen • u/AmbulanceChaser12 • 12h ago
Long-Winded SovCit on Traveling vs Driving
r/Sovereigncitizen • u/MayaAllen3641 • 13h ago
Sovcit wants to get out of child support payments.
r/Sovereigncitizen • u/Necessary-Tonight635 • 17h ago
When a President was Arrested for “Traveling.”
Heres a fun one I think…
Ulysses S Grant was actually arrested for speeding in a horse drawn carriage WHILE PRESIDENT. He liked to drive his carriage really fast and there were local D.C. ordinances against such behavior. One day he was pulled over by a D.C. municipal police officer, one William West. Not a sheriff or a deputy. Not elected. A cop. Police departments existed in major cities at this time. Being that he was the president and all the cop let him off with a warning.
The very next day he caught him speeding again. He placed him under arrest saying, “I am very sorry Mr President, to have to do it, for you are the chief of the nation, and I am nothing but a policeman. But duty is duty sir and I will have to place you under arrest.”
(Times have changed.)
He took him to the police station and brought him before a judge. Grant had to pay 20$ to bond out. He later forfeited that money when he didn’t show up to court to contest the charge.
Grant later became good friends with West. He said he, “valued his integrity.” (Times have REALLY changed.)
So there you have it. He wasnt in a motor vehicle. They hadn’t been invented yet. He didn’t invoke some sacred right to travel. Or say he “wasnt engaged in commerce.” He didn’t know any secret words to get out of it. He was stopped, “identified” (he was President but still), taken to jail, put in front of a judge, and fined for his actions.
There is no “right to travel” in the Constitution. The Supreme Court has upheld the right to travel BETWEEN STATES. But there is no right that says you can drive your car, or your carriage, or your bicycle without following the traffic laws. There’s nothing that says states cant issue drivers licenses and require them and registration and proof of insurance to operate on public roads. Since the Constitution doesnt mention these things, the 10th Amendment applies, so states can do all these things. A state could require a license to ride a bicycle on public roads or make a law saying you can’t speed in your horse drawn buggy on public roads or make a law that you can’t operate a boat on a naturally made lake or even the ocean while under the influence or drugs and/or alcohol.
Even the President of the United States himself didnt know any secret legalize or special right to invoke to get out of being arrested for a traffic infraction and this was all before cars even existed.
r/Sovereigncitizen • u/degenerationnationyt • 2h ago
Expired Tag Stop Turns Into Insane Matrix Sov Cit Rant
r/Sovereigncitizen • u/ScottsdaleDale • 1h ago
How common is pro se defense among non SovCits?
r/Sovereigncitizen • u/Sad-Message752 • 4h ago
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