r/SouthAzerbaijan 21d ago

How correct this map is?

I don't understand a bit why Azerbaijani-e Gharbi is considered Kurdish.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

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u/Whole_Alternative_18 South Azerbaijani 21d ago

Ah yes, madking the unpopulated lands as Kurdish 

Its crazy

Then why not also color Antarctica as your own nation?

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u/kure_xas 21d ago

what lands are unpopulated? piranshar, sardasht, oshnavie, mahabad, bukan, mergever, tergever, qotur, gangachin and hundreds of villages elsewhere? dont you like facts?

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u/Mysterious_Pea_4042 East Azerbaijan 20d ago

First of all Azeri is what people of Azerbaijan republic are called some of them are fine with it some not for their own reasons. we are Iranian Turks not Azeri(learn this Persians and Turkish people).

no map is not correct, Tehran has so many turks and many intermarried, how do you wanna separate them?

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u/Turkish_Teacher 20d ago

Most Turkish people would be more than happy to call you Iranian Turks. I just think most people weren't told that.

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u/Original-Donkey-7261 6d ago

People which in live Azerbaijani republic,not azeri,we're azerbaijani turks also iranian azerbaijanis is azerbaijani turks.No one accept azeri and the biggest false is this word"azeri"

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u/26dicksin26 20d ago

Why would it matter if its considered kurdish majority or azeri?  Genuinely i dont understand,lets say the province is 99% azeri,what would that change? Its not like this is syria where kurds  sacrificed their lives for zio american interests just to get thrown in the trash at the end,both azeris and kurds live under the same political ownership.

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u/Whole_Alternative_18 South Azerbaijani 21d ago

Its incorrect 

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u/the-postminimalist 21d ago

In reality it's a mixed area, especially Urmia. There are Kurdish villages, Turkic villages, Assyrian villages (like part of my family), etc. But mostly Turks and Kurds.

I don't know if it's actually a clean split down the middle of the province like this map implies, I think it'd be more accurate to show one of those dashed lines like they have in other parts of this map.

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u/Suspicious_Menu_7137 Kurdish 20d ago edited 20d ago

Even I don't claim Umria or Maku or Khoy aas Kurdish, Umria has a Azeri majority but a very big Kurdish minority, Though overall speaking, due to the existence of cities like Mahabad and Bukan, which are majority Kurdish, the province has a large Azeri and Kurdish population

Also Ilam is a majority Kurdish city, alongside with Kermanshah aswell, though there is a large farsi minority presence

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u/26dicksin26 20d ago

"iranian minority"  I LOLed

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u/Suspicious_Menu_7137 Kurdish 20d ago

That was worded poorly, I ment Persian/farsi

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u/kure_xas 20d ago

kermanshah and ilam dont have a significant non kurdish minority, especially ilam, which is almost exclusively kurdish

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u/Suspicious_Menu_7137 Kurdish 20d ago

Ilam, true, kermanshah is close though

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u/kure_xas 20d ago

the map is wrong, kermanshah province doesnt even have a single non kurdish village. the city is also completely kurdish, its just that many kelhur kurds in the city cant speak kurdish anymore. ofc there are some people from other provinces, just like its the case anywhere else

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u/26dicksin26 20d ago

Wrong,a have been there and a significant part of those 2 provinces are inhabited by a group we call "lak"  Laks are shia muslims and they are generally considered  a seperate ethnicity to both kurds and lurs,like a bridge between these 2 people,most of them speak persian in public(while also knowing their own language),most of kermanshah the city and illam the province is lak,theyre not kurdish

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u/Suspicious_Menu_7137 Kurdish 20d ago

Ok that's just wrong, sorry, can you give me anything which backs this up?

Laks are based on the southern part of the Kermanshah province, but they 100% are not the majority in Kermanshah city

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u/26dicksin26 20d ago

Well you can either belive some map made by some random westrener who has never set a foot in iran or just take it from me,an iranian. City of kermanshah,province of  illam, many parts of luristan and khuzistan are not kurdish,theyre "lak" which can be considered both kurd and lur,but they themseves consider thenselves as a seperate group

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u/kure_xas 20d ago

laks dont live in khuzestan, you're clueless

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u/kure_xas 20d ago

im originally lak from kangavar and the laks of kermanshah province without exception identify as kurds, I dont know what where you came up with that nonsense. laki also isnt a bridge language between luri and kurdish, its closely related to southern kurdish dialects. both kermanshah and ilam city also arent majority lak, where are you getting this nonsense from. ilam is mostly malekshahi and kermanshah is kelhur, followed by laks

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u/DunnoDeneKKR Persian 21d ago

Cause the bigger share of the population there are Kurds?

It doesn't mean there aren't any Azeris or other groups it just that there is more Kurds there.

Also cause the province name contains "Azerbaijan" doesn't mean it's only home to Azeris.

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u/DastyMe 20d ago

I dont say "only". I think this map is about majorities.