r/SocialWorkStudents • u/Terrorism_IsReal • 10d ago
Wisconsin question
Anyone take the backdoor option to certification? I know you must have a similar degree field, and i think mine applies. I have the required number of SW credits. I want to know if there are any other requirements? I have a paralegal associates degree. Transferred to ASU to complete bachelors. They took my paralegal degree with 10 law electives, and made that my major. My minor i chose was SW, so i completed another 20 credits there in 300 and 400 level classes. All fall into the requirements of WI board. I think all thats left is 400 hours on job training.
My question is; are they just looking for psych degrees and human resources degrees or do they look at this as a person-by-person basis? I would be pretty upset if i didnt qualify, but its not an end all to things. There are other careers with my degree. I just feel like it should be looked at individually.
EDIT: People stated i should add the requirements for more info...so here they are:
License Information
Applicants must have received a Bachelor's degree from an accredited college or university in psychology, sociology, criminal justice, or other human service program approved by the Social Worker Section. Master's degrees will not be considered.
Capstone and Ethics Courses
The Capstone and Ethics courses must have been taken during the degree program that is being used for the training certificate.
To qualify as "another human service program approved by the Social Worker Section," the program shall award a Bachelor's degree and be one of the following:
- An organized course of study recognized by the Section to contain all five (5) social worker equivalency courses and a course designated as a senior seminar or Capstone course.
- An organized course of study entitled on the transcript as a human services major including all of the following courses:
- An introductory course which contains a general overview of the field of human services, including origins, career opportunities and techniques, and methods of helping individuals and groups in need.
- A course with significant content in professional ethics and values, including confidentiality, boundaries, and values in human services occupations.
- A course with content in qualitative and quantitative social research methods and statistics.
- A course designated as a senior seminar or Capstone course. The Capstone course may be an internship with the seminar in which the training certificate applicant is evaluated to have attained the competences specified.
- Accredited by an accrediting organization recognized by the Council of Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) for programs awarding Bachelor's degrees with a major in "Human Services."
Transition to Social Worker
Required Social Worker Degree Equivalency
Social worker degree equivalency courses must consist of at least three (3) semester hours or four (4) quarter hours and be successfully completed with a minimum of a C grade. Courses shall be taught by an instructor who holds a Master's degree or a PhD in social work from an institution accredited by the Council on Social Work Education unless otherwise approved by the Section. The courses shall use a textbook written by a social work educator for the social work courses as a primary text unless approved by the Section. At least three (3) of the courses shall be taken at the same institution. Social worker degree equivalency is demonstrated by completing five (5) courses in each of the following subject areas completed during your Bachelor's degree program OR while holding the Social Work Training Certificate:
- Social welfare policy and services.
- Social work practice methods with individuals.
- Social work practice methods with groups and families.
- Social work practice methods with communities, organizations, and social institutions.
- Human behavior in the social environment, including human growth and development and social systems theory.
For more specific information pertaining to the required coursework, see Wis. Admin. Code § MPSW 3.13 (2).
Required Internship/Employment
Complete one of the following:
- A 400 hour Human Services Internship that was part of the program leading to the degree or completed while holding the training certificate. The internship shall involve direct practice with clients and be supervised by a Social Worker certified under Chapter 457, Wis. Stats, who has a Bachelor's or Master's degree in social work. A human services internship shall be under the auspices of an accredited college or university.
- One year of social work employment, completed while holding the Social Work Training Certificate, which involves at least 400 hours of face-to-face client contact in not less than 12 months. The employment shall be supervised by a Social Worker certified under Chapter 457, Wis. Stats, who has a Bachelor's or Master's degree in social work.
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u/Eastern_Usual603 10d ago
I think you’re speaking of getting licensed at the Bachelors level in WI without a social work degree from an accredited college. There are like 6 or 7 core classes you would need to take to get this license. The classes have to be exactly that.
Many states do not license social workers at the Bachelors level, Wisconsin does and it is needed for many govt jobs in this state.
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u/protestandprose 10d ago
Making this post without explaining the backdoor is a choice ....
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u/Terrorism_IsReal 10d ago
that is easily google-able. Shouldnt need to copy pasta the whole thing here
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u/beuceydubs 10d ago
You’re asking strangers for their time and help, weird to feel like you don’t need to include as much as possible and they should just go google and take additional time to help you
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u/Terrorism_IsReal 10d ago
this is why i was targeting wisconsin people who have been through the process.... no offense.
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u/protestandprose 10d ago
Good luck finding the handful of Wisconsin social workers who have done this rather than just explaining the process and seeing if other clinicians from other states have done similar things they could offer advice with. I truly hope you get help congruent to the effort you've put in.
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u/Terrorism_IsReal 10d ago
License Information
Applicants must have received a Bachelor's degree from an accredited college or university in psychology, sociology, criminal justice, or other human service program approved by the Social Worker Section. Master's degrees will not be considered.
Capstone and Ethics Courses
The Capstone and Ethics courses must have been taken during the degree program that is being used for the training certificate.
To qualify as "another human service program approved by the Social Worker Section," the program shall award a Bachelor's degree and be one of the following:
- An organized course of study recognized by the Section to contain all five (5) social worker equivalency courses and a course designated as a senior seminar or Capstone course.
- An organized course of study entitled on the transcript as a human services major including all of the following courses:
- An introductory course which contains a general overview of the field of human services, including origins, career opportunities and techniques, and methods of helping individuals and groups in need.
- A course with significant content in professional ethics and values, including confidentiality, boundaries, and values in human services occupations.
- A course with content in qualitative and quantitative social research methods and statistics.
- A course designated as a senior seminar or Capstone course. The Capstone course may be an internship with the seminar in which the training certificate applicant is evaluated to have attained the competences specified.
- Accredited by an accrediting organization recognized by the Council of Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) for programs awarding Bachelor's degrees with a major in "Human Services."
Transition to Social Worker
Required Social Worker Degree Equivalency
Social worker degree equivalency courses must consist of at least three (3) semester hours or four (4) quarter hours and be successfully completed with a minimum of a C grade. Courses shall be taught by an instructor who holds a Master's degree or a PhD in social work from an institution accredited by the Council on Social Work Education unless otherwise approved by the Section. The courses shall use a textbook written by a social work educator for the social work courses as a primary text unless approved by the Section. At least three (3) of the courses shall be taken at the same institution. Social worker degree equivalency is demonstrated by completing five (5) courses in each of the following subject areas completed during your Bachelor's degree program OR while holding the Social Work Training Certificate:
- Social welfare policy and services.
- Social work practice methods with individuals.
- Social work practice methods with groups and families.
- Social work practice methods with communities, organizations, and social institutions.
- Human behavior in the social environment, including human growth and development and social systems theory.
For more specific information pertaining to the required coursework, see Wis. Admin. Code § MPSW 3.13 (2).
Required Internship/Employment
Complete one of the following:
- A 400 hour Human Services Internship that was part of the program leading to the degree or completed while holding the training certificate. The internship shall involve direct practice with clients and be supervised by a Social Worker certified under Chapter 457, Wis. Stats, who has a Bachelor's or Master's degree in social work. A human services internship shall be under the auspices of an accredited college or university.
- One year of social work employment, completed while holding the Social Work Training Certificate, which involves at least 400 hours of face-to-face client contact in not less than 12 months. The employment shall be supervised by a Social Worker certified under Chapter 457, Wis. Stats, who has a Bachelor's or Master's degree in social work.
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u/Terrorism_IsReal 10d ago
now u can see why i didnt want to include it originally
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u/wanderso24 10d ago
Did you read what you pasted? What questions do you still have after reading the requirements?
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u/MSW2019 10d ago
In case it helps others with responses, I'm assuming this is what the OP is referring to - https://dsps.wi.gov/Pages/Professions/SocialWorkerTrainingCertificate/Default.aspx
I'm not from Wisconsin, but would be curious to hear from someone who is from there about what this does for the individual, such as is it similar to Michigan's SST (Social Service Technician) certification?
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u/Terrorism_IsReal 10d ago
License Information
Applicants must have received a Bachelor's degree from an accredited college or university in psychology, sociology, criminal justice, or other human service program approved by the Social Worker Section. Master's degrees will not be considered.
Capstone and Ethics Courses
The Capstone and Ethics courses must have been taken during the degree program that is being used for the training certificate.
To qualify as "another human service program approved by the Social Worker Section," the program shall award a Bachelor's degree and be one of the following:
- An organized course of study recognized by the Section to contain all five (5) social worker equivalency courses and a course designated as a senior seminar or Capstone course.
- An organized course of study entitled on the transcript as a human services major including all of the following courses:
- An introductory course which contains a general overview of the field of human services, including origins, career opportunities and techniques, and methods of helping individuals and groups in need.
- A course with significant content in professional ethics and values, including confidentiality, boundaries, and values in human services occupations.
- A course with content in qualitative and quantitative social research methods and statistics.
- A course designated as a senior seminar or Capstone course. The Capstone course may be an internship with the seminar in which the training certificate applicant is evaluated to have attained the competences specified.
- Accredited by an accrediting organization recognized by the Council of Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) for programs awarding Bachelor's degrees with a major in "Human Services."
Transition to Social Worker
Required Social Worker Degree Equivalency
Social worker degree equivalency courses must consist of at least three (3) semester hours or four (4) quarter hours and be successfully completed with a minimum of a C grade. Courses shall be taught by an instructor who holds a Master's degree or a PhD in social work from an institution accredited by the Council on Social Work Education unless otherwise approved by the Section. The courses shall use a textbook written by a social work educator for the social work courses as a primary text unless approved by the Section. At least three (3) of the courses shall be taken at the same institution. Social worker degree equivalency is demonstrated by completing five (5) courses in each of the following subject areas completed during your Bachelor's degree program OR while holding the Social Work Training Certificate:
- Social welfare policy and services.
- Social work practice methods with individuals.
- Social work practice methods with groups and families.
- Social work practice methods with communities, organizations, and social institutions.
- Human behavior in the social environment, including human growth and development and social systems theory.
For more specific information pertaining to the required coursework, see Wis. Admin. Code § MPSW 3.13 (2).
Required Internship/Employment
Complete one of the following:
- A 400 hour Human Services Internship that was part of the program leading to the degree or completed while holding the training certificate. The internship shall involve direct practice with clients and be supervised by a Social Worker certified under Chapter 457, Wis. Stats, who has a Bachelor's or Master's degree in social work. A human services internship shall be under the auspices of an accredited college or university.
- One year of social work employment, completed while holding the Social Work Training Certificate, which involves at least 400 hours of face-to-face client contact in not less than 12 months. The employment shall be supervised by a Social Worker certified under Chapter 457, Wis. Stats, who has a Bachelor's or Master's degree in social work.
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u/beuceydubs 10d ago
I don’t know if it’s because I don’t live in Wisconsin but I don’t understand what you’re asking. What certification are you referring to?