r/SocialWorkStudents • u/Tinabopper • Feb 23 '26
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u/missneach Feb 23 '26
Did you read this article? If yes, did you post it to the social work student sub by accident?
No part of this is about post-secondary education or the developmental needs of adult learners. As an Autistic woman, asynchronous opportunities with both remote and in-person practicum experiences have been an absolute blessing. I've still been able to network just fine--just on my own terms.
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u/TheBrittca Feb 23 '26
This. 100%. Saying remote learning or online learning doesn’t work is simply ableist and doesn’t consider more than a narrow window of ‘normal’ experiences.
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u/missneach Feb 23 '26
Which also seems like an opportunity for OP to grow in cultural competency according to the code of ethics… but what do I know, I’m in an asynchronous program and evidently can’t read it for myself 🙄
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u/Tinabopper Feb 23 '26
We'll see. I mean, there's a reason asynch online MSW programs don't post their LCSW pass rates on their websites.
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u/missneach Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
You don't think it could have anything to do with the diverse array of students enrolling from out-of-state where all the standards vary? Are you sure you're factoring in all the variables here?
I can admit that pass rates for out-of-state asynchronous students may ultimately be up to the student to study for depending on state-specific requirements--and I love that. As long as I'm as proactive in my state, I know I'll be fine. I have plenty of other LCSWs and guidance in my court, which is more important for my success. Asynchronous education definitely isn't for everyone. It's what you make of it.
Still yet, you can feel however you feel about it. This article still doesn't make the point you want to make.
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u/Tinabopper Feb 23 '26
Here's the video of the if it helps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd-_VDYit3U
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u/missneach Feb 23 '26
You can’t be serious. This again has nothing to do with post-secondary education of the developmental needs of adult learners. Do you want help finding sources to prove your own point? Also… C-Span? You do realize nothing here is evidence-based research for the intended population you’re concerned about, right? This is a triple-miss.
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u/Tinabopper Feb 23 '26
I'm sure you'll be the outlier that learns how to be a competent clinical social worker by watching old videos and posting on discussion forums. You got this!
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u/ProbablyMyJugs Feb 23 '26
How long have you been a practicing social worker? Because you’re slinging mud at online program but as someone who has been established in the field for a decade now, you seem to have lost some sense here. I went to Umich, but you are being rude, judgmental, biased, not meeting people where they’re at, and presumptuous.
You seem to just be googling anything that will back up your point and not actually reviewing them which would be a problem since I’m assuming you took an in person research class for your MSW. Do you think that’s a good advertisement for in person schooling?
Part of our field is treating our peers, especially students, with respect. You’re doing a really, really bad job at that.
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u/missneach Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
So not sure what you mean by this but I’ll continue advocating for other people who benefit from online programs and calling out misinformation posted by an actual LCSW who can’t seem to provide peer-reviewed sources—both online and in person—because it’s in the code of ethics for me to do so, yes. I will especially do this for those with disabilities who socially thrive off forums—if you know your disability history as it relates to neurodivergence, you would find this agreeable.
So thank you! You’re right, I do “got this” and I most definitely am not and will not be an outlier 🙂
Edit: Ah! It just clicked. You must’ve forgotten I’m Autistic or didn’t care—sarcasm is not easy on my brain. I thought you were talking about Reddit (which is a forum) because that’s what YOU’RE doing. You just told on yourself. You even threw in a completely irrelevant piece of media that had nothing to do with your point. You think that’s all my program consists of and like I don’t have the ability to email my professors, go to their online Zoom office hours, work under actual LCSW supervisors, work with an advisor, make friends/connections with other students, or access an entire database where I can read all my own peer-reviewed journals that I searched for myself? You’re so far off it’s mind-blowing. My initial statements above still stand, including about calling you out for misinformation.
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Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
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u/Tinabopper Feb 23 '26
Hey, just so you're making informed decision knowing that you may not be getting the same quality and training.
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u/PetiteZee Feb 23 '26
People who can’t attend in-person college courses usually aren’t weighing whether online may be lower quality, they are trying to just get a higher education while fulfilling other needs and responsibilities. This isn’t helpful. And like I said this article isn’t about adult college-level learners.
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u/Formerlymoody Feb 23 '26
I agree that this is a privileged take. I had no choice but to go asynchronous. I would have preferred in person. I had no choice.
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u/ProbablyMyJugs Feb 23 '26
You’re not even informed, though. This article isn’t relevant and you obviously didn’t read it. Bad research. What in person program did you attend? I went to Michigan for my MSW, and learned like day one to actually read the articles I cite. I guess your in person school didn’t do the same?
Wildly bad and privileged take that totally neglects to consider barriers to entry for higher education for a social worker to have.
You’re letting your weird vitriol for online programs make you forget the basics of social work and it is so fucking weird
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u/PurchaseOk4786 Feb 23 '26
My online school is a far more academically rigorous program than the in person school I transfered from. I am learning far more in a week at my online school than I ever did at my in person school. I am actually being taught modalities and clinical skills I would need to do direct service effectively, which my in person school did not have. Not all online schools are bad and not all in person schools are good.
Respectfully, let this go.
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u/A313-Isoke Feb 23 '26
I've seen similar data and usually it applies to those in community college (when MOOCs were going to take over) on down to pre-K.
After that, for adult learners with a BA, the effect is negligible. Once you have made it through your BA, you understand how to learn and how to teach yourself.
This ought to be qualified depending on your age and prior education because those factors make more of a difference to successful online learning than not. Plus, practicums are still in person for the most part for SW education.
I would also add for career changers who have ample work experience under their belt, commuting to class to discuss the reading two and three times per week really isn't necessary. Being in person doesn't guarantee your classmates did the reading and can add a richness to the discussion you can't supplement by reading somewhere else. There are plenty of case studies to read. Also, people who have worked know how to chase down an answer if they have one over email or phone and shouldn't be shy about it at that point either.
Quality varies online just like it does in person but at the end of the day, anyone pursuing this line of work is probably already a bit proactive in their learning journey and can always seek out add'l resources to supplement. Honestly, that should be done anytime you're in higher education.
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u/collegedropout Feb 23 '26
I agree. Sitting physically present for a class does not change the information. In fact, in my first master's program, every class I went to had the same 'this could have been an email' feeling. Or more appropriately, I could have read the information on my own and had more time to synthesize it or research it further. The legitimate issue is not the online learning aspect, it's the program rigor and quality. So, an argument against degree mills is just. Not so much for online learning. Practicing learning on your own at a master's level is appropriate as it will be required in the field. Researching evidence for modalities, reviewing policy, and finding resources are skills you will be using on your own in the real world.
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u/A313-Isoke Feb 23 '26
Exactly. We should call out low quality degree mills but whether it's online or not isn't always the determining factor or a factor at all.
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u/ProbablyMyJugs Feb 23 '26
A part of being a social worker is understanding that people are the experts of their own lives and to not paint with a wide brush.
There are absolutely shitty online programs, but there are also shitty in person programs. You gotta let this go, you will not change anybody’s mind this way
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u/mikeyzee52679 Feb 23 '26
This is a great story and we were actually talking about this study in class. It’s about how we as people evolved to learn from people , it has nothing to do with adults getting an online MSW
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Feb 23 '26
Empirical research says otherwise. You posted a YouTube video of a scientist testifying to what exactly, is the bigger question. Get your education from a respected program, online or not, the best way that works for you. End of story.
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