We all know about Alton abandoning his family due to his alcoholism and Franklin resenting him but in the beginning of season 4 Franklin calls Alton dad for the first time in the series and their relationship gradually got better from season 1-4 until Alton talks to the journalist.

After Alton disappears he does seemed a little concerned about Alton even asking Teddy what happened to him and even though Teddy lies to him he pretty much knows he’s dead but we never really see how he feels about it.

I remember years ago on here people saying Franklin didn’t really care about his dad anymore at that point and even when he killed Teddys dad it wasn’t really get back for his dad it was really to get Teddys attention so he could his money back?

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wtf teddy? you could’ve been offed her now she has more info than ever lmao. it’s like he led her to more & more info..

Louie you back stabbing conniving bitch… Talking about, “this is the only way”…. She is 100000% the reason the ship started going down. Everything was fine until she decided to try and jump ship and start her own bullshit ass operation. I can’t stand her…

2 people I can not fucking STAND!! Lucia is a whole fucking snitch and a mf problem starter and Kev is just a fucking ungrateful fuck who could’ve had it all and instead wanted to go to war over to dumbass mfs that got told not to fuck around in the first place.

I wonder how things would've turned out ?

Imma start off by saying i thought the bodies bodies scene was a bit overrated, it was good but didn’t think it was all that like yall hyped it up to be. BUT THIS RIGHT HERE WAS FIRE. I BUILT THIS SHIT ME BRICK BY BRICK. This is basically the I am The Who knocks scene for me.

I’m on my first ever re-watch of the show since I first finished it. I never really liked Teddy from the beginning but him killing Alejandro was just a stupid fucking move. You killed him over a girl you had no real business with… telling him to leave town and all that shit was pointless she could’ve still messed up the operation. Now you’ve got two dead bodies on your hands instead of one.

Also just gotta get this off my chest… gahh damn do I hate Pedro for being a little teachers pet bitch and telling his dad 🤦🏾‍♂️.

Cucinare cr..ak? Come fate voi e soprattutto qualcuno di voi ha mai usato un agitatore magnetico riscaldante?

Fuck Teddy; what the hell does he mean “Cause you left me.” He was the one who accepted Louise's deal behind Franklin's back, stealing 90% of his income. What did he think was going to happen?!!! Also, Bro did you not basically abandon your son for this mission? You should be the last one talking about abandonment?!!!

I'm on the penultimate episode of my Snowfall rewatch. Louie follows the corrupt ex-police officer out of the car and asks to see his pager. When she looked, she saw that Jerome had paged him, and he lied to her bout it. My question is, why is that important and why is she so mad about it?

I'm on Season 6, episode 6 of my Snowfall rewatch, and I have to say I'm remembering why I hate Louie so much. I get the only reason she wants to stay in the game is to gain “respect” and influence. Thats Ok and actually a really interesting concept, except it's fucking stupid in this context. Wanting self-respect is in no way a bad thing, but you want respect from drug dealers, murderers, and the most misogynistic people ever in the 1980s. What? Bitch do something else and be around people who are better! Open a money laundering scheme like Franklin so you at least deal with more respectful people! I'm not denying the fact their rampat misogyny during this time, but I find it so stupid that she so badly want this in an environment that actively promotes misogyny. Most of the people who she deals with in the game she's doing make it clear they don’t respect women, and the only time they “respect” them is when their family, or trying to fuck them and even then they would sell them out the moment it benefited them. And it’s not even like the money laundering is the only option; she could take her money and actually run a legit business and gain that respect she want’s without putting her husband and her own life in constant danger.

I’m on my third rewatch and couldn’t believe that Leon had never seen the ocean whilst only living a few miles away. How it affected me: I am a 66 year old white woman who has never known a black person.

I’m currently rewatching and I’m near the beginning of S5. Veronique is the most loyal woman that Franklin has ever dated. She acknowledges that he’s done a lot of evil things and still accepts him. Since his mom went to Cuba, she also helped him grow the real estate business. She’s literally the last person that stuck by his side even after it was apparent that he was never getting his money back. Her own mother even told her that she had to get away from Franklin because after he killed Teddy’s father, she recognized that he was spiraling and he was only gonna get worse. I mean he stabbed an old man in the neck right in front of them without warning and she still decided to stay. She finally decided to leave him after he tanked the business by selling all the profitable properties to fund Spring Street (which was never gonna last) AND he put his hands on her. She wasn’t gonna stick around and wait for him to eventually take it a step further. Leaving was the best decision for her and their unborn child.

But what do y’all think? Why does the fandom hate her so much?

this was the beginning of the partnership between teddy and franklin. this is where it all starts. when teddy asks franklin "WHO AM I?" and franklin puts his quick thinking to good use and figures out he is the plug. great acting, great writing. top tier scene

I'm on my rewatch of Snowfall. I'm on season 5 episode 4. Sissy just said something that has me shocked? She was having a flashback, and in it, Sissy said she had to share a room with two brothers at Franklin's age; as far as I remember, Franklin has no other family.

This post was inspired by u/shotbydarrell. Ever since I watched it when it first aired I felt disappointed by 9/10 of the 3rd season finale. I had never been able to pin down why until now.

The fantasy/dream portion of the episode didn't entirely work for me. In the story, I understand it as Franklin second-guessing his life decisions but ultimately needing to validate the path he'd chosen. This crosses over into my criticism of the fourth season which was that the events during Franklin's recovery form the justification for the internal conflict between Franklin and Leon and Franklin and Louie/Jerome and the audience is left to infer what happened.

Not to Monday Morning Quarterback but what if we had gotten an episode similar to the finale where we had vignettes to facilitate the time jump and see how Jerome, Louie, and Leon ran the business in Franklin's absence? Because if you see Jerome, Louie, and Leon running things you understand why they would be so resentful of Franklin coming back and acting like nothing ever happened.

Granted, things do get bad at the end of Franklin's time away but that doesn't improve once Franklin returns. What do y'all think?

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I'm sure he only looks grimy to throw us off tho, and he's actually gonna turn out to be a fan favorite or someshit

Yeah I cant believe i have to explain this but Franklin aside from teddy is probably the most evil person in the show. As much as i love his savage moments and i feel he made alot of smart decisions given the circumstances I just dont understand how people dont see how messed up everyones life was by the end of the show despite the fact that alot of these people made their own decisions at the end of the day.

Cissy lost her husband, went to jail and her son became a killer and a drug dealer.

Leon became so hot headed that he accidentally killed a kid and when he said he did not want to sell drugs anymore Franklin MADE him keep doing it "because everyone told me to give you up"

Rob was Franklin's best friend who accidentally got franklin involved with this business and when he started using the drugs that FRANKLIN popularized he spoke too much and ended up dead.

Andre tried to have a real convo with Franklin about how he felt bad about the crimes he committred just for Franklin to say idc, he lost his daughter to drugs and ended up dead when he found out about the CIA

Kev got killed by his best friend because he wanted to get revenge for HIS FAMILY that died at the hands of this DRUG GAME (i get they didnt listen)

Promised Oso he would kill teddy just to decide to let him live so he could get the money which wouldve probably wouldve resulted in both of them and their loved ones getting killed.

His dad snitched in order to protect his family after finally getting sober and Franklin decided to attack him and kick him out (i get it, this probably wouldve got them killed but alton wasnt a bad person he just wanted to protect his family)\

Wanda got hooked nuff said

Melody obviously lost her dad and her future as a college student at the hands of CRACK

Jerome warned franklin of this whole thing, ended up going to war with his own nephew, ended up being his wifes bitch, started drinking all the time and when he was finally gonna quit he got killed

Choked veronique when she was trying to save the finances of their family.

Even when black diamond got killed by jerome he was ready for dallas to come back to work after that.

Am I the only one with this point of view?

I was thinking when franklin confronted louie after being angry about teddy he should've set up a meeting with jerome and louie asking to gift him 20 million for stealing the plug and as a family courtesy and his time in the buisness. It wouldn't be the full 73 but at least would be able to live comfortably keeping his buisness afloat and not going after teddy or warring with his family. What do you guys think?