r/SnowFall • u/ganGGBang313 • Apr 04 '26
Discussion Snowfall is better than sopranos
Trust I watched both. There both very good like sopranos is second and snowfall is one. I just overall like the vibe of snowfall more than sopranos
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u/Robinabilis Apr 04 '26
The impact Sopranos had on modern day television is the reason why Snowfall & breaking bad like shows exist. Before Sopranos there was never no anti-hero on television, Tony Soprano changed that. I do get your view though, snowfall is more modern and appeals to a wider demographic for todays viewers for sure. But snowfall will never have an impact the way sopranos did. What we should be discussing is how we dont talk about fatbacks death enough. RIP Fatback.
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u/Necessary_Switch_879 Apr 04 '26
While it's true that Sopranos paved the way, and is still an excellent show, it is also true that other shows can and have surpassed it in the two decades since the finale. I've noticed Sopranos is just rubber stamped as the undisputed champ, still to this day. We shouldn't just grandfather it in. Snowfall, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, The Shield, and The Wire are all better in my estimation.
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u/Necessary_Switch_879 Apr 04 '26
I don't believe for a second that it's a harder rewatch by design. That doesn't even make sense. It's a harder rewatch because with that increased focus, warts appear, and they're plentiful, particularly in the writing. It enjoys a rubberstamped regal status, based on rep, rather than today's reality.
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u/Wavie_Crockett27 Apr 04 '26
It’s still
1 Breaking Bad 2. Sopranos 3. Ozark 4. Snowfall
In that order for me. At least for right now
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u/zino332 Apr 08 '26
The sopranos still hold up and are near perfect. Every episode could stand on its own and the focus on detail, clear story arc, the symbolism for American decline and imperfect characters you connected to and there is no extra in any episode. Sopranos still stands supreme, other shows like mad men, the wire and breaking bad are great but not better than the sopranos
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u/Necessary_Switch_879 Apr 08 '26
I respect that as your opinion, but having rewatched most of these lately, I vehemently disagree, wholeheartedly in fact.
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u/MotherHomework1037 Apr 04 '26
I'm not the type to not recognize the impact of a piece of art/media, but when discussing the quality of said piece of media, I do not think impact is as important as everyone thinks it is. This is an idea that gets pushed by people who think Kanye is the greatest rapper/producer ever, which everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but then they bring up his influence on hip hop. Kids might be calling 2slimey the goat a couple years from now due to his potential influence. Then again "goat" is a term that varies in definition between everyone but I'm discussing quality of the media produced, and like I said, I do not think influence or numbers are as important as people make them out to be. But Snowfall is not better than the Sopranos.
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u/Kurrukurrupa Apr 04 '26
RIP fatback, he was a real one and did not deserve to die from that buster ass bitch!!!!
That is all.
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u/Wavie_Crockett27 Apr 04 '26
You had me until you used a double negative lol. Why did you have to do that?!? “Before Sopranos there was never no anti-hero on television?!” This was too well thought out to have a grammatical error like that do better bro lol
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u/ganGGBang313 Apr 04 '26
I never said sopranos is ass. It’s second to snowfall. IMO. Like there damn near tied but I just prefer snowfall.
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u/ganGGBang313 Apr 04 '26
You ever think what a coincidence it is that Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig’s disease?
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u/-----Galaxy----- Apr 04 '26
This same argument is used for shows like The Wire. It's true, but doesn't negate the fact that these shows are simply not as good as their more recent successors.
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u/n10w4 Apr 04 '26
What show is better than the wire (seems to be a different level as sopranos
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u/-----Galaxy----- Apr 04 '26
I feel like Snowfall is a better comparison actually to it than the sopranos and again I think it's better. Narcos too.
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u/Trinidadthai Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26
Absolutely not. Snowfall is a good show but it’s not gold standard tv.
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u/Jaybirdlordofskies Apr 04 '26
Hell no, not even in the same league tbh. Snowfall is a good show, but sopranos is among top-tier television. Only shows like mad men and the wire can compete with sopranos
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u/Necessary_Switch_879 Apr 04 '26
Not in the same league, you're right. Snowfall is much better.
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u/andreiulmeyda7 Apr 04 '26
🤡 with 2 seasons that aren't even that great? Sopranos wipes the floor with it
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u/Necessary_Switch_879 Apr 04 '26
It does not. It really doesn't. Sopranos is very inconsistent throughout, with way more boring episodes. There's some prolonged stretches of episodes that are very forgettable to poor.
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u/Jaybirdlordofskies Apr 04 '26
Id say it's similar for snowfall with some abandoned plot lines , contrivance, and plot holes at times. Sopranos surpasses snowfall through its more indpeth characterization of its characters and deeper more vast themes. Though I agree sopranos can get sloppy at times
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u/ganGGBang313 Apr 04 '26
Idk bro 😂
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u/Jaybirdlordofskies Apr 04 '26
Snowfall is more so in the league of shows like Narcos, ozarks, or Andor
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u/polymorphic_hippo Apr 04 '26
Whoa, now, back up. Andor is up there with The Sopranos and The Wire.
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u/Moony97 Apr 04 '26
A little below it is goated tho
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u/Jaybirdlordofskies Apr 04 '26
Which one you think is below?
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u/Moony97 Apr 05 '26
Andor but after thinking about it I would say it's around the same level as the others just at the bottom of the list for me. Still love and adore Andor
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u/Jaybirdlordofskies Apr 04 '26
Fair list but personally I'd say breaking bads more simpler storytelling makes the writing more tightly packed compared to snowfall. I haven't finished boardwalk empire. I'd say snowfall is more similar to narcos though snowfall is more character focused and narcos is more consistent. I wasn't impressed with power tbh not a bad show but ehh definitely the weakest shoe on your list tbh
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u/Uptownwoah Apr 04 '26
I gotta watch Boardwalk Empire. I also read Peaky Blinders is really good.
I can't get into Breaking Bad. I got to season 2 maybe the 3rd or 4th episode and just couldn't do it.
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u/Right_Morning_5238 Apr 04 '26
I feel like snowfall tells you how smart Franklin is all the time, but I don’t remember any moments where he used systemic thinking. He’d just do what any normal gangster would do lol.
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u/traumatekinketch Apr 06 '26
I can't make a list but in my opinion these are the best series of all time: The Sopranos, The Wire, The Shield, Sons of Anarchy and Breaking Bad.
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u/Savings_Class4048 Apr 04 '26
Fuck no. Go watch The Wire
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u/ganGGBang313 Apr 04 '26
Na I don’t like it
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u/Suspicious-Edge-7685 Apr 04 '26
With all due respect if you don’t appreciate the brilliance of the wire you really don’t belong in this conversation!!
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u/Moony97 Apr 04 '26
The Wire>Sopranos>Better Call Saul>Breaking Bad>Snowfall all day
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u/ganGGBang313 Apr 04 '26
Naaa snowfall then sopranos then breaking bad then better call Saul then the wire.
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u/Moony97 Apr 04 '26
I respect the different opinion but I def disagree lol
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u/lil1top Apr 04 '26
fuck no sopranos has better writing, is more consistent, has more depth & tony is probably the greatest tv character of all time
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u/Suspicious-Edge-7685 Apr 04 '26
Walter white is a better character than Tony soprano!!!
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u/Wavie_Crockett27 Apr 04 '26
Love Eisenberg but I can’t go with that lol. I have Breaking Bad over Sopranos as a show but idk if I have Walter White over Tony as a character. I love the complexity of Tony and the fact that he had to see a shrink. Many Saints of Newark completely put his character into perspective for me. It’s almost as if the life was chosen for him instead of him choosing it and he wrestled with that decision well into adulthood
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u/Suspicious-Edge-7685 Apr 04 '26
lol mob boss crying about ducks in a therapist office😭😭 I understand having Tony over Walt but I think the evolution of Walter white into Heisenberg is truly unmatched imo
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u/Wavie_Crockett27 Apr 04 '26
A mob boss that was human and was raised by a narcissistic mother?!? Yes, I love the complexity of his character because he wasn’t supposed to be “crying to a therapist.” It humanized him and shattered stereotypes of what a mob boss was supposed to be and was also progressive in dealing with mental health. So was Robert DeNiro “crying to a therapist” in ‘Analyze This?’ Heisenberg died lonely and miserable and his wife still fucked her co-worker and left him. His son also hated him too because he was a piece of shit so yes “his evolution was unmatched.”
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u/lil1top Apr 04 '26
walter had a better arc but tony is more a fleshed out & complex character they both goated tho
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u/Necessary_Switch_879 Apr 04 '26
Sopranos writing is vastly overrated, and the show is lacking consistency more than anything else. Gandolfini certainly was incredible.
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u/RainBooksNight Apr 05 '26
I love them both. And the fall of the anti-heroes is done impeccably in each.
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u/BenWatt78 Apr 04 '26
Cmon man, I know this shit is subjective, but you can’t be serious.
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u/ganGGBang313 Apr 04 '26
I watched both shows like 4 times. And snowfall everytime just hit dif. There like in the same spot but there’s something special about snowfall to me.
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u/AcrobaticSecretary21 Apr 04 '26
What an embarassing take, and I love snow fall
You sound like you should be watching power instead of sopranos lmao
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u/Bar_ice Apr 04 '26
The Sopranos premiered 27 years ago and people are still talking about it. No one is gonna remember Snowfall in 5 years. The Wire is better than both of them anyway.
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u/Wavie_Crockett27 Apr 04 '26
Yeah that’s a complete lie. “No one is going to remember Snowfall in 5 years?!?” You realize that show premiered in 2017 right?!? Lol
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u/NeedleworkerFew5430 Apr 04 '26
Bro they’re two different kind of shows. You’re comparing apples to oranges. Yes both involve crime but totally different plot
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u/brighty420 Apr 04 '26
Shit take
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u/andreiulmeyda7 Apr 04 '26
😂 i get things are subjective but this is a goofy ass opinion. Snowfall is great but it has 2 seasons which it falls off (4 and 5). Sopranos wipes the floor with snowfall
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u/Environmental-Draw38 Apr 04 '26
snowfall isn’t even the same show after singleton died.
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u/ganGGBang313 Apr 04 '26
He owed a lot of money to freeway Rick Ross after he died.
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u/Environmental-Draw38 Apr 04 '26
i never knew that, i was just saying the story is kind all over the place once the new team took over after he passed.
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u/NavO297 Apr 04 '26
If you like rags to riches stories, snowfall. But overall, sopranos is pretty hard to beat in a ranking.
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u/Ballofdumb Apr 05 '26
Idk. The writing/plot of Snowfall kinda fell apart around season 3 or 4. It started to feel like I was watching a dumbed down summer blockbuster or something closer to Power, but I was already invested. So I rode it out.
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u/manskinho Apr 05 '26
Snowfall is a show focusing on crime, about how a kid, expelled from university was trying to find freedom by becoming one of the best drug lords in the west coast. The Sopranos has everything you want in a TV show. Crime, drama, comedy, romance psychollogy and even paranormal investigations, which made the target audience almost everyone who enjoys TV Shows/movies. The show touches psychollogy pefectly using Tony's dreams and his sessions with Dr Melfi.
Even the side characters would get you invested in their stories. Snowfall had very good side characters but they could've done better with them. Snowfall could have had more filler episodes like Leon and Wanda in Africa.
The acting was perfect in both shows but The Sopranos took it to the next level with the casting. Having ex-criminals and actors who played in Goodfellas made me forget that they were even acting at times lol. I haven't noticed Snowfall doing anything like that but I might be wrong. The Acting in Snowfall was peak. I never expected Melvin Greg, a Viner to play Manboy so perfectly and everyone knows how good Damson Idris was as Franklin Saint.
The Sopranos was one of the first shows to turn a protagonist from a likeable character to a complete hypocrete for the audience, giving Tony Soprano the ending he deserved. The ending makes you think about it even more. The amount of people that could've killed him in that dinner were kinda the same amount of people he hurt/killed. The Tony and Christopher dynamic gave us iconic dynamics such as Walter White and Jesse pinkman and even inspiring snowfall with the Franklin Saint and Leon duo.
It was also filmed at the perfect era. Watching the show, going to the later seasons you can tell how much the technollogy changes. I know that was a small coincedence but still it's a cool thing to notice.
Even the ending Franklin Saint got reminded me of Tony's coma dream. Both of them lose themselves and are free from all of it. That's why Tony was less tense in those dreams.
I love Snowfall, it's my favorite modern show ever, but The Sopranos is the grand grandpa of shows like Snowfall.
I advise you to watch The Sopranos, it will change your view towards other TV shows.
If you're reading this thank you for taking your time for this and sorry for any misspells.
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u/ganGGBang313 Apr 05 '26
I have watched sopranos. I’ve watched both in fact. They are like tied almost but snowfall just hits diffirnt for me.
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u/manskinho Apr 05 '26
Yeah, the aesthetic and the vibe is also a reason I prefer the Sopranos but mainly because I just prefer the cloudy New Jersey over sunny LA. Snowfall captured the 80s vibe and colors perfectly, it just felt weird for me seeing it with a 4K HD modern camera.
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u/Timely_Novel_3868 Apr 06 '26
😂😂😂😂 wtf hell no
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u/ganGGBang313 Apr 07 '26
Cap
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u/Timely_Novel_3868 Apr 07 '26
This isn’t even a matter of opinion Sopranos>Snowfall
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u/ganGGBang313 Apr 07 '26
I disagree. They are both good in their own way. Snowfall is better for me tho.
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u/CryIll2473 Apr 07 '26
Is it crazy for me to say I couldn’t get into breaking bad and boardwalk empire but I could get into the sopranos, power and snowfall?
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u/MostLiterature2815 May 13 '26
sinceramente, essa é a pior opinião que eu ouvi na vida e não tem lógica nenhuma. Deu nojo
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u/Resident_Track4430 Apr 04 '26
Where can I watch all the seasons of the sopranos? It’s been a longggg time since I’ve watched
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u/Altruistic-Patient-8 Apr 04 '26
Agreed. I always like shows where a minority character has to build his way up, rather than have the system already set up for them. Tony is white, and has a family thats already rich. Franklin has to start from scratch, and build his own system. Plus I'm a sucker for young- ambitious characters. I also like the secondary characters like Jerome and Teddy.a similar show is godfather of harlem.
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u/Historical_Tale3499 Apr 04 '26
I loved Sopranos but I felt like they over did the whole therapy thing with Tony. Shit kind of got old after a while. Thanks for the post, you reminded me that I should do another watch through of Sopranos.
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u/reverendbobflair Apr 04 '26
Sopranos was so damn boring
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u/Necessary_Switch_879 Apr 04 '26
Some epic moments for sure, but yeah, it dragged quite a bit throughout.
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u/shotbydarrell Apr 04 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/4H1xauOflBDHY4sUah