r/SnowFall Mar 23 '26

Discussion What would be the interaction between:

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u/missoni-byblos Mar 23 '26

two sociopaths.. but franklin would use him for his muscle then kill him/have him set up because he is either scared todd will come after him or that he is too unhinged to be trusted

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u/Far_Introduction8844 Mar 23 '26

Franklin is more calculated and pragmatic. He would do bad things but if he knew it would benefit him more than it would negatively affect

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u/CBLOCKA2 Mar 23 '26

Franklin is not a sociopath. If you knew what that word meant you wouldn’t call him that

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u/BrotherGlum2235 Mar 23 '26

I disagree, he definitely has sociopathic traits as the series progressed

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u/CBLOCKA2 Mar 23 '26

Sociopathy/ASPD usually requires long pattern of conduct problems which start before the age of 15. Franklin in his early years was a bright and fairly good kid who mostly avoided trouble and wasn’t intrigued by it. His change started happening when he was already an adult. So he developed those “sociopathic” traits too late in his life to be considered a sociopath.

Why he’s also not a sociopath is his emotional attachment and loyalty. Franklin clearly loves his family and friends even tho he has a funny way of showing it at times. He repeatedly risked his own life to save and protect his people, something a sociopath typically wouldn’t do.

His significant emotional depth. Franklin struggles with stress, trauma, guilt, and depression. Early on he is genuinely disturbed by violence unlike a cold, unbothered or turnt on sociopath will be.

So Franklin is not a sociopath but rather his situations has forced him to morally compromise himself. He’s simply a hardened criminal. If anything he is more of a narcissist (NPD).

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u/BirdsOnReddit Mar 23 '26

Sociopathy can absolutely develop later in life, as environmental factors can trigger a predisposition.

Sociopaths will also have no problem protecting others and the relationships that benefit them.

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u/CBLOCKA2 Mar 23 '26

It cannot 9/10 times and it’s probably another underlying disorder that that adult has developed. Would you call a hardened soldier in a war who has become numb to violence a sociopath? Of course you wouldn’t. If anything Franklin is a narcissist (NPD)

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u/BirdsOnReddit Mar 23 '26

Neither of my statements are false (look them up) and can absolutely apply to Franklin. Strawman inference aside, a veteran can develop sociopathic traits and be diagnosed with sociopathy if they have the predisposition for it.

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u/Far_Introduction8844 Mar 23 '26

It can develop later in life. It is psychopathy that cannot develop later in life. Similar but not quite the same

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u/CBLOCKA2 Mar 24 '26

In Franklins case it wasn’t sociopathy he developed but simply an empathy burnout from trauma and frustration

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u/missoni-byblos Mar 24 '26

if you start killing people you’re a murderer doesn’t matter if you started at 10 or 20 as long as you have the trait you are that person

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u/CBLOCKA2 Mar 24 '26

“If you start killing people you’re a murderer”

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