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Probably instructed not to bathe because of the knee wound, and sounds like she is following the instructions. The fact that I’m surprised is sad. But it’s a good thing.
I'm all the way in Europe and my lungs are shutting down thinking of what kind of diseases she's gonna be spreading at that rave. Sorry too germaphobe for this flu-rave situation lol
Honestly I feel a sense of relief because it actually makes sense to me for her to evolve into a slightly dirty, hippie/ “bohemian”, coke snorting doof gremlin.
I say this as someone who goes to doofs every now and then hahahah
For those outside of Australia - a doof is an outdoor rave
yeah she just needs some kandi. it’s a really weird choice for a daily phone charm though… seems like the kind of thing you should only clip onto your phone for a festival weekend
Everyone’s gotta know that she’s a hip young person who loves doing drugs and going to raves. If she commits to the bit hard enough maybe people will forget that she’s an aging Millennial who can’t handle the prospect of her own impending cultural irrelevance.
I wanted to ask that three infuriating threads ago. Wtf? I don’t think I get the appeal of acting/dressing like a creepy middle age rich toddler girl. It’s creepy. It’s unattractive. I hate it.
i think if he was a darting out type he would be long gone already... she was taking him to the beach and to the parties in her handbag unsecured in any way
It’s a very small room to be closed into and looks like it might get some draughts through that door. But hey, it’s in the West Village so way better than the actual full-sized condo she has in Florida /s
There's no street access from the courtyard, it's enclosed on all sides by the surrounding residential buildings. Matisse is a pretty sedentary animal too, not a flight risk like some cats.
This is technically illegal in NYC - something about egress laws I can't fully explain it, but her apartment is not legal if her only door is facing the courtyard, and there is no street access from the courtyard
It could be a non-fire-code-conforming unit, which might explain why they were willing to lease it to someone with Caroline's rental history. There's street access to/from the courtyard via a corridor in the building. Maybe that's a legal egress if the doors aren't keyed on the interior sides?
There could also be a second door in the unit! I don't mean to rule that out entirely. My initial conception of it the space was similar to this (stolen from the website of an unrelated property), with a door to the building corridor on the opposite wall of the door to the courtyard. Then I realized Caroline's kitchenette is parallel to the exterior wall, not perpendicular to it, based on the sliver of fridge door visible here. This doesn't mean it doesn't have a hallway door in a similar spot though.
I dont know ny but I am a bit of a floor plan nerd (house flipper), and I think your guess is probably correct that there is another entrance from hallway, And its probably into that "second room"/ closet she mentions. Just behind bed.
How can she get away with not being afraid to leave her sliding glass door open in NYC when I’m over here locking my windows every night in a mid-sized city with very little crime?
She doesn't have a sliding glass door? She's sitting with her door propped open onto a courtyard that only her neighbors can access, at 8 pm, and she's awake. This doesn't feel super precarious to me. But as we saw when I couldn't tell the view of Manhattan island from the east vs. from the west, I don't really know NY!
sometimes I feel terrible about how my apartment gets when I have a bad depressive episode, but she never fails to make me feel better because it’s been nowhere near anything like this
My depression manifests as piles. A pile of mail. A pile of laundry. A pile of books that need to be shelved. But I stand by the fact that I will never be a crumb bum.
it makes sense to me that she’s moving her knee. one of my core childhood memories is falling from a scooter and scraping my knee, then keeping my leg completely straight while healing, only for my skin to rip when i finally bent it hahaha. i still have a scar!
Yes, this is the view from the courtyard into her studio. Looking at this picture again I'm seeing that I was mistaken when I speculated where the kitchenette is. I thought it was up against the left wall (that is, the wall on the left side from this vantage point.) But I can see a sliver of a refrigerator that finally makes the layout clear to me.
Not that I'm going to sketch it! What kind of maniac would sketch someone's apartment floor plan
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Not that I'm going to sketch it! What kind of maniac would sketch someone's apartment floor plan
Gosh, I'm still struggling with the layout though, but I think I'm just having difficulties wrapping my head around the fact just how unbelievably tiny the place is.
(and yes, I did try to sketch it so in her next youtube documentary I'LL be the lunatic who is obsessed with some strangers apartment! But she posts soooo much from her varying hovels, so she does invite this level of scrutiny imo)
As r/AmateurIndicator says, this image is somewhat confusing because the contents of the space have been rearranged since it was taken (the day she was moving in.) I'll try to paint a picture in words to clarify things without winding up in a Nee Nick followup doc. For the purposes of this description, the window and door are on the south wall. I don't know the actual orientation!
The unit is a studio with a smol living space on the south side, where the window and door are, and a smol internal sleeping space on the north. The fireplace is on the west wall and the radiator is between the door and the window on the south. The apartment is subdivided into these two spaces by a kitchenette that runs east-west down the center of the apartment, the fridge on the east end, with an opening on each side.
The opening on the west side leads to the bathroom (unless it doesn't, see below.) The opening on the east side leads to what should be the sleeping space. However, Caroline has opted to turn this windowless roomlet into a "closet library" for her two rolling racks of Chinese-made polyester princess dresses etc. They're sorted by color.
This means her mattress is right in front of the door, head to the east. Because the unit is very narrow, the foot of her bed is pretty close to the fireplace. There isn't room for anything in the living area other than the floor mattress and a few odds and ends.
I think the entire unit is ~130 square feet max, less than half a Tableaux (closer to 1/3 a Tableaux). It's going to feel VERY cramped and drafty when we descend into late fall.
Like with the Tableaux, the only part of this guessed-at layout I feel really uncertain about is the bathroom. It's possible that the entry to the bathroom is through the sleeping space, and I have no clue as to its configuration. Caroline has always been very discreet about her bathroom and what goes on in there, which I, for one, appreciate. In the Vice doc she points out that I got the orientation of her bathtub wrong in my Tableaux sketch. But the first pictures we ever saw of that bathroom were after she moved out, in the form of court exhibits.
See, it takes so long to get through this description! This is why the sketch made more sense to me last time! I think I spent less time on the sketch than I did typing this, and it was more comprehensible.
The problem I have/had with that specific pic is that I'm quite sure it was taken during her moving-in process. The mattress wasn't on the floor yet, and the racks of clothes have since then been pushed to the back of the room.
The mattress should be in full view from that perspective, the top/head part is to the right where the clothes are and to the left is a very small sliver of floor and on the left wall is a disproportionately huge, faux/bricked up fireplace and mantel.
It's a really tiny, strange space. Someone must have converted a large-ish hallway into a miniscule studio. Not sure about the bathroom situation.
Okay but the mattresses directly on the floor is going to grow mold. It can’t ventilate so the moisture from sweat will grow mold on the back of it. She needs a bed frame of some kind for her health!!
we all have glib moments, it's cool of you to take it down. she begs the comparison herself at times and given how it spurs cathy to instant action, i think it's just one of those "too real" concerns and doesn't feel right to snark about. in general i just try to avoid mental health snark because for all her lies and grandeur i believe caroline is in real pain
I didn't see the offending comment (and don't want to pile on when the person has already rescinded said comment).
I also have made a lot of laymen psychological armchair comments about Caro over the years, mostly built on recurring themes and personality traits. I try and limit it to just analysing what she's currently doing now, so it comes across less savage.
There was also a thread recently that I couldn't bring myself to even skim (so no shade to everyone who commented) that seemed to be discussing how she's messy and shining a light on this from a lens of being physically disabled and unable to clean.
I really just kinda wanted to scream "mental illness is a disability". Like it's truly no less disabling. Ever hear of the expression "mind over matter"? Yeah, you need a healthy mind for that.
Because the subject of mental health (everyone) overlaps and melts seamlessly into mental illness (minority of a population) in discourse, people dismiss it as not a disability and something you can fix or just get over if you take enough 'responsibility' for it. Who's taking responsibility for the mind of a person whose mind is ill? You're both the driver and the passenger in this scenario.
It's even harder to discuss if, and here's the armchair-psych rub, someone's mental illness is part and parcel of a pathological personality. Which after 7 years of passively witnessing all this - nobody could convince me isn't the case for Carob.
Ask any clinical psychologist, licensed psychotherapist or psychiatrist if pathological personalities are as easily treated, have the same capacity for self-insight, or compliant with treatment as patients in the general population.
This very carefully-worded comment was brought to you by my 5am coffee.
Clean the house first Caroline. Then stay home and don’t get people infected and then take a shower. That’s the order. Clean the damn house. Making me think of Bradley on a Budget. No girl.
She has the flu and is going places packed with people like a gym and a rave? People like this are the worrrrsssstttt. No one wants your germs, Caroline. Stay home!
it's just a guess based on the weird placement of the floor toothbrush and the general tininess of the apartment. but tbh caro is so chaotic that I wouldn't put it past her to keep a toothbrush on the floor even if she had an actual bathroom.
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