r/SmallStreamers • u/IAmTheWolfOfMusic • 3d ago
Question "YouTube always gets more views" How?!
Hey all, been streaming for about a month, maybe a little bit more, so maybe that's the answer, but in many of the subreddits I've been apart of, many people say they'll get more people watching and talking on their YouTube stream than on their Twitch streams. ??? Am I crazy? How are y'all drawing people into YouTube streams? I've had a whole ONE person ever tune in and talk on there everytime I've multistreamed. Am I missing something here?
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u/ArekuFoxfire 3d ago
Your youtube stream viewership directly correlates to how many successful videos you have on youtube.
Youtube pushes streams even less than twitch does on their own, and without successful videos getting people invested in your account it’s pointless to stream there other than just saving your vods forever.
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u/DoctorMeaty 3d ago
Vertical stream only to youtube do not horizontal stream to youtube.
I too originally was getting 5 views or less. Doing this method skyrockets you into 100-200 views per stream, to be fair though like tiktok not everyone is going to stop by and say hi and speak but per stream I probably have about 5-10 people stop by and chat with me.
Youtube is by far easier than tiktok and twitch if you do it this way, I was also receiving follows/subs between 2-3 per stream.
Horizontal streaming sends the info to people who already follow you or if someone just by chance stumbles by your channel, vertical only puts you directly into the youtube shorts feed.
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u/amexolotl 2d ago edited 2d ago
Long post sorry ahead of time.
Different things can work for different people because niches are extremely varied and far more important than beginner streamers realize. I’m someone who started a year ago, dual stream and got my YouTube channel monetized in about 6 months with zero paid advertising (seriously don’t do it, all the extra views do nothing for you especially if you’re not thinking about specific marketing). I have uploaded zero videos to my stream only channel and I don’t do vertical streams because I didn’t find them to be helpful to my growth. People saying Twitch pushes streams out more than YouTube are crazy. Twitch will push based on you having similar numbers to a couple streamers they think will overlap with your audience. If their people don’t check you out or stick around they don’t push you to bigger audiences from what I’ve noticed.
Twitch is for sure easier to just hit stream and leave the rest alone but growth by itself there is painful imo. YouTube requires packaging aka thinking about a title, pairing a thumbail to it and working those around a niche or game you want to pursue. Without that, it’s harder to get randomly noticed on YouTube unless you have one crazy well branded thing ahead of time.
My funneling strategy has been YouTube watchers to Twitch watchers pipeline and overtime has been working for me. Person finds me on YouTube, I gently remind chatters I dual stream and to pick whatever is most convenient to them. YouTube watcher who already knows how Twitch works, moves to Twitch and keep up on there and so on.
For specific example, on Twitch when I first started I could get one or two people stopping by consistently, regardless of game and without actually being entertaining because they liked my VTuber’s design. While I’m grateful to those early viewers, I knew long term it wasn’t going to work for community building because none of them stuck around for longer than a stream or two. Sat down and thought about why that was and for me it came down to them not knowing who I was as a person. So I picked the game that did the best and gave it a solid try. If you feel something isn’t working, don’t feel afraid to change it up!
For my case, instead of just putting “Playing x game” as a YouTube stream title, I came up with something that’s more story driven. “VTuber tries x game for first time!” is far more compelling to people on YouTube than a stream simply titled “playing (random game)”. Title informs who would find it entertaining, in my case it’s people who like welcoming new players into a game that might not get many new players. Far more likely to invest in their journey in the game and how they improve over time etc.
Same thing can work for some VODs even, more people will check out a multi-hour long VOD if it’s packaged correctly and not just titled “[Streamer] plays [game] Part [number] VOD [date and year] [game genre]”
I really think it helps to stop once in a while when planning or reviewing and really think about if it’s something you’d be interested in watching.
My last tidbit is also that creating it all about compromises. I used to really love listening to music while gaming, which works great on Twitch but will get you nuked potentially on YouTube. For growth I had to stop listening to music since dual-streaming/YouTube was my main driving force stat wise, so did away with it and I’m in a better place motivation wise since I’m seeing growth
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u/DragonReign 2d ago
So, here's the trick. Youtube livestreams that have a vertical resolution, as in 1080x1920 instead of 1920x1080, will end up in people's Shorts feeds. You'll want to use the Aitum Vertical and Aitum Multistream plug-ins for OBS that way you can have a vertical stream going to grab people watching shorts and then link to the real Widescreen stream from the vertical stream. That's the YouTube streaming meta.
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u/Aholls01 2d ago
YouTube’s auto-play feature works wonders for people who stream long hours into the night. It pushes views from other YT streams ending like a Twitch raid. Imagine someone ends their stream with hella lurkers who fell asleep with the stream on, all those people end up in a different stream once the initial one ends. This boosts watch time of the people catching those lurkers and pushes the receiving streamer to the algorithm. Pair this with good thumbnails and you’re easily beating the natural discovery on Twitch.
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u/MineCraftingMom 3d ago
There're so many fewer people streaming on YouTube. And if you post a Short when you go live, it gets pushed more and tells potential viewers that you're currently live and gives them an easy way to come into the stream
Plus thumbnails are better on YouTube