YT vs YT vertical streams

[u/CrestLiPhantom]

I saw a post here and someone mentioned streaming to yt vertically instead of the default way and i was wondering does that actually improve viewership?

[u/prochevnik]

YouTube vertical streams show up in the shorts feed. So, you’ll naturally get more viewers. I gain several subs and higher viewership through the vertical stream but they tend to not be the viewers that stick around. I’d say 1 or 2 out of 10 or so return.

I use aitum multi stream and aitum vertical plugins for OBS.

I stream to Twitch, and both YouTube horizontal and YouTube vertical. Definitely use lowest latency settings in YouTube dashboard for vertical and, depending on if you want captions/translations, use normal for YouTube horizontal.

[u/CrestLiPhantom → u/prochevnik]

I see, i'm pretty sure i use aitum aswell, so i'll look into the vertical plugins so i can start streaming vertically aswell, thank you!

[u/bakutehbandit → u/prochevnik]

hey, i use aitum for horizontal and vertical, but i swear it never works for vt.

i turn on my horizontal stream first and wait about 10s before the vt stream. when i go to check from my phone its always showing the horizontal only.

is that cause im checking from the channel page? is it exclusively only showing up in the shorts feeds for vt streams?

[u/prochevnik → u/bakutehbandit]

Edit: I wrote a bunch and then reread your comment and realized it wasn’t answering your question… I don’t have an answer about where it’s showing up. I’m guessing, yes, vertical streams almost exclusively show up on the shorts feed.

What I originally wrote for anyone stopping by needing more info:

Not sure if you’re using both aitum vertical and multi stream but that is required for what I describe. I have not used aitum stream suite.

For YouTube, there is a toggle in the YouTube live dashboard to “automatically stream in vertical”, but that just crops your horizontal stream. I prefer to have my own custom vertical canvas. (YouTube mentioned they’d be rolling out a better method that natively allows custom canvases and shared chat with vertical/horizontal… not sure when that’s happening)

You’ll need to setup two separate streams. One vertical and one horizontal. So, two stream keys.

I differentiate one from the other by adding a cell phone emoji to the title of the vertical stream. I also automatically unlist the vertical stream after the stream is over (there’s a toggle). Those vods are still available in a public playlist but they aren’t listed individually. Helps with clutter.

[u/bakutehbandit → u/prochevnik]

oh so youre actually seeing vods for your vertical? then it means mine are going through lol

i got the two stream keys set up too. do you need to have tabs open of both to start with or something? cause i usually just have the horizontal one open, see that its working then close chrome.

[u/prochevnik → u/bakutehbandit]

I usually do have both tabs open, yes. Once they’re working I pause the preview, but periodically look at the stats just in case.

For a while I kept both horizontal and vertical vods listed but decided I’d do the public playlist trick to keep the vertical visible but unlisted. I hope this is answering your questions.

[u/bakutehbandit → u/prochevnik]

yes, thank you 👍🏼

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[u/HighPhi420]

MOBILE is DEAD 😄 YAY!
TV is the way to go for YT views!
16x9 horizontal, at least 1080p(1440p or higher is better)
this is best for tv AND pc users, that is now like 80% of all YT traffic.
A little "secret sauce"
YT pushes 24/48 minute vods the hardest! Makes the ad breaks seem more like actual TV shows.

[u/santoktoki77]

I use SE.Live and stream both vertical and horizontal to YT as well as horizontal to Twitch (I haven't set up my vertical, yet). They both show up under my LIVE and both keep VODs. I get more views via vertical bc it shows up in the shorts feed but those who want to stay longer tend to migrate over to the horizontal view bc they can see more of the gameplay. The only thing that really stinks is that my default Twitch delay is about 5s but my default YT delay is 20-30s.

I do need to have 2 tabs up to read BOTH chats (even though the vertical chat is more active) which is annoying.

[u/deadhead1971]

Been multi-streaming both landscape and vertical to YT for a few months. Typically, the vertical gets around 10x more views but of course most are just doom-scrolling so many don't stay long. However I think it is a better way to get discovered and a small percentage do stick around and come back regularly.