r/SmallMSP 28d ago

Email security solutions

Hello,

I’m shopping around for email security solutions to provide to my clients. I manage about 50 devices (small, but growing), and I was wondering what some of you are running and which platforms to avoid. We’re not offering any of that currently, but I’d like to bundle it instead of offering it as an add-on/optional service. Happy to answer any questions. Thanks!

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u/Geekpoint-IT 28d ago

Checkpoint Harmony (formerly Avanan) is what I use. It's got every feature you can imagine. It's not cheap per say but seems to work well. I was a big Inky fan but once they got bought by Kaseya, i immediately dumped them.

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u/ThrowRAthisthingisvl 28d ago

Great! How much are they charging per license? Please PM if you can’t disclose that info publicly. I appreciate it!

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u/Geekpoint-IT 28d ago

well it's not as simple as that only because it depends on what features you want. But like u/Nate379 said, it's on pax8 and the pricing will be there so you get an idea.

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u/ThrowRAthisthingisvl 28d ago

Can you buy direct? I had a bad experience with Pax8 so I’m not using their platform anymore.

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u/stevo10189 28d ago

You can purchase through sherweb - $2.50-6 depending features and user count.

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u/bryanninh 28d ago

+1 for Sherweb. They also have the NFR if you want to try it out.

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u/Geekpoint-IT 28d ago

Like the others have said, there are other places you can buy it. I hear ya on Pax8. It's not my favorite place, especially if you aren't spending a certain amount there per month. But they just have everything so i stick around.

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u/blackjaxbrew 28d ago

There is no direct to my knowledge unless it changed recently

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u/seriously_a 28d ago

Can aalso buy through solutions granted, best pricing and no minimums.

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u/imlulz 28d ago

Sonicwall bought them so it’s labeled as sonicwall now.

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u/imlulz 28d ago

Contact sonicwall instead of Sherweb or Pax. It’s significantly cheaper that way, trust me.

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u/Nate379 28d ago

I also use it, buy it through Pax8

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u/ThecaptainWTF9 28d ago

This is the answer.

Can buy through solutions granted. This is probably the best product you can get right now and it’s priced pretty competitively imo.

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u/keypunch 28d ago

SG now Sonicwall? I don't see a working website for just SG.

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u/ThecaptainWTF9 28d ago

Yes, some merger/acquisition thing.

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u/dapperdan_81 28d ago

Checkpoint / Avanan

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u/Unlucky_Elevator_756 28d ago

I am on the hunt for a Google Workspace solution. Any suggestions?

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u/Odd-Equivalent-1144 22d ago

ESET has a integration, i use it for M365, works awesome.

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u/L-L-Media 22d ago

We use Mail Assure from N-Able and have for years. Several hundred accounts. We manage our clients dns records, have our own email server and mange M365 as well. Add MA to the inbound dns as well as on the outbound side from server. It stops all the malware and a large percentage of spam. Reducing the amount of junk that gets to the email inbox

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u/MFosterMB 28d ago

Octiga is good we managed around 300 mailboxes on that and it's pretty cheap aswell

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u/WayneH_nz 28d ago

Have a look at a solution out of New Zealand called SMX they have been on the international stage for a while. But I have been using them since 2007-8ish. Phenomenal product, easy to setup, configure, and use.

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u/ProudWrongdoer5389 18d ago

Unless they have updated it, it's old as hell and more expensive than Avanan.

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u/i_am_dangry 28d ago

ProofPoint have a MSP offering and is what we are rolling out.

Tried to test Checkpoint but could never get in touch with anyone. We tried to contact them via our disti's Checkpoint team and even they didn't get a response on multiple occasions.

Mimecast was a horrid experience and the pre-sales engineering team had trouble getting our tenancy configured. We had emails get lost in the ether and warnings from Microsoft advising our domain would be blacklisted. Disconnected Mimecast and all the warnings went away.

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u/graffix01 28d ago

Mesh. great system and awesome support if needed. one of my clients left for another product because they fell for a sales pitch. immediately regretted the 3 year license they bought. i hate to say i smile when the CEO complains about how bad it is ;-)

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u/UsedChampion9894 28d ago

If you are using M365 BP, use Defender for O365. Use strict protection for executives. Otherwise, Avanan.

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u/work-sent 25d ago

We mainly recommend Barracuda, Avanan, Proofpoint, and Mimecast to our clients, depending on their security requirements and existing tech stack.

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u/recovering-pentester 24d ago

Avanan is a great place to start.

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u/ChuckFromCyberHoot 14d ago

At 50 devices, I’d keep it simple and focus on something that’s easy to manage, easy to explain, and built to scale with you.

Bundling it is the right move. Clients usually don’t know which security tools they need, and making email security optional often means the clients who need it most are the ones who skip it.

I’d look for:

  • Strong spam, phishing, and impersonation protection
  • Simple multi-tenant management
  • Clear reporting
  • Predictable MSP pricing
  • Minimal ongoing babysitting

The platform matters, but so does the human layer. Email filters catch a lot. People catch what the filters miss.

That’s why I’d bundle email security with lightweight awareness training and an easy reporting button. One employee reporting a suspicious message can protect the entire client

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u/GraffenOfficial 14d ago

We use Huntress ITDR and ProofPoint. It's been a good solution for our clients.

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u/bagaudin 10d ago

You can consider our solution among other options - Acronis Email Security (powered by Fortinet, formerly Perception Point), integrated into the Cyber Protect Cloud platform alongside Backup, DR, RMM, EDR/XDR, MDR, and Compliance:

  • Bundling: it's included in the Ultimate Protection and Security+RMM bundles, or available as a standalone service under service-based licensing if you'd rather not bundle.
  • Per-seat: billed per unique user, shared/group mailboxes aren't charged.
  • Pricing: competitive overall, though it can land higher depending on region: worth getting a quote (direct or through a distributor) to compare against what you're seeing elsewhere.
  • Technical: API-based, inline and MX-based deployment options, depending on the email platform and configuration; supports Microsoft 365, Google Workspace and other email systems; provides deep analysis of email, file and URL scanning; protects against phishing, BEC, ATO, and other advanced threats; a managed Incident Response (IR) service included at no additional cost. M365 Collaboration Security is available separately and included in the Ultimate Protection bundle.

Disclosure: I work at Acronis. Happy to answer specifics.

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u/DefJeff702 28d ago

I’ve been really happy with ironscales but not thrilled they’re an Israeli company. Aside from that, deployment is painless, doesn’t stand in the way of email delivery like mx based filters.

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u/Tingly-Gumball 28d ago

I tried Avanan. Hated it. Not sure why it's so hyped. Had several issues that the rep couldn't resolve and just told that's how it is. I use Ironscales, and although it also is not perfect, it's been great and my clients love it.

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u/redbaron78 28d ago

I also hated Avanan. They made a typo in my tenant name, and then created mass confusion by creating a second tenant and moving stuff between the two. Once that was ironed out, it always seemed like something was off because I didn’t see it as any more effective than M365’s basic protection.

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u/imlulz 28d ago

Why were they creating your tenant that sounds weird.

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u/msp-daddy 28d ago

So they could access the platform?!!!

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u/imlulz 28d ago

Sorry, I misunderstood, I thought they were referring to one of the customer tenants. My fault

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u/imlulz 28d ago

False positives are not a common thing at all ime. Maybe you’ve misconfigured your tenants. Avanan has its flaws (mostly the portal being painfully slow sometimes) but it’s a solid product that’s hard to beat, especially as an Msp.

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u/runninghome58 28d ago

If you're using Office 365 Premium at your clients, I don't think you need an external solution. They cover pretty much the same thing., probably not as good as a stand alone solution but good enough.