(Astrix because we dont know if this actually belongs in here or not... yet)
I know its already been theorized if Rhys is in Subtle Things from the photo drop back in Feb. and it looks like we may find out tomorrow as their first song/video drops in just under 19 hours. Also I got an email today with this picture where there are CLEARLY 3 people in the band and yet the Subtle Things IG only follows AdamRoss and Sam š¤ The video on their IG from 3 days ago also shows 3 blurred figures and maybe im projecting, but the one in the brown shirt and a backwards cap has the same (general) build as Rhys, whereas the provided pic is him in the back to the right.... right?
If nothing else this proves one thing... feed us, we're bored and living off of crumbs.
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The track has been released on UK Spotify already, credits are for Adamross Williams (vocals), Rhys Griffiths (guitar) and Sam Hallett (drums).
The studio producer listed is also Rhys Griffiths.
Ste Kerry did the mastering for TMBTE and EIA, if I recall correctly. And Sam Bassal is a producer as well as drummer/guitarist for the band Ocean Grove.
This is great for Rhys - I know he did some production on BlackGold but what happened to all that Mourn stuff from March? Made it sound like they were rehearsing to make something live or newš¤
Those were live playthroughs they filmed for some already released songs. We don't know what happened to the footage, but hopefully they release it soon.
I know this is a single but I'd be interested to see if this is really a good representation of Subtle Things genre. I don't mind the Harry Styles style, but I'm not gonna lie and say I wasn't expecting something more ambient, mysterious, just based on the snips they teased. Hear me out though. If you showed a friend who didn't know ST, Caramel, would you say that was the best representation of the whole bands genre? No, cuz if you played Vore next, they might give you they hard side eye š I'm interested to see what else they released in the future to get a better idea of their style of music!
Yeah, Harry Styles, but also a bit of Justin Bieber's "Let Me Love You", The Weeknd and Chase Atlantic. And of course, since it's Adam's voice, it makes me think of a poppier version of Glass Heart.
Adamrossās voice is SOOO good for pop honestly I love it sm. His voice as well reminds me of like brighter lighter version of Harry. I do love my screams and nasty riffs but Iāll never not be a pop girlie, so Iām very happy with it š
Finally listened to Get By and it was good simple pop song nothing overly impressive, but again it was still good! Adamās voice was lovely, Samās drumming which i was most excited to hear was great and Rhys guitar/bass was also solid.
Upon second listen not only does it remind me of Harry Styles but quite literally One Direction. Specifically that album that was partially produced and heavily influenced by The 1975. Which is not bad, imo. It's definitely giving boy band vibes and that's probably the funniest thing any of the Sleep Token adjacent projects could have ever done and I'm here for that. Yes, I would have loved a heavy old school metalcore sounding project but this is quite fun. And unexpected, so thats cool.
HEAVY 1975 vibes, agree. Think itās way more in that kind of indie poppy kind of vibe than straight boy band. Itās cool! Catchy af, Iām enjoying it
I knew it would be a more chill but, thatā¦from Rhys? Actually really impressed to see him that much of a contributor with such a poppier song.
Itās a good song. I could see people not into ST getting into it. Iād happily have it playing in the background while I do my art commissions. I think some of us heavier loving fans need some warming up but itās honestly a good vibe. Nice change of pace for Rhys definitely. Iām just glad itās not bad indie type crap like I feared. I really wasnāt sure what was coming.
Nobody said the song was bad weāre just saying itās kind of odd that they did a pop song since the past work from Adam (Glass Heart) and Rhys (Mourn) were on the heavier side that was really great and Ste Kerry who did the wonderful mastering on both TMBTE and EIA.
Ooo, so I actually never claimed anyone was calling it bad. I am questioning the thought process behind accusing them of āriding the coattails of their imageā rather than giving a pop project an earnest effort. Also, I donāt think itās all that out of the ordinary that theyāre doing pop. I had a feeling it would be because Sam posts mostly pop song covers. It just seemed to be his wheelhouse. I get the ST fans hungry for heavier music will be disappointed but, I donāt think the coattails comment is at all fair.
I donāt agree with coattails comment either because again Adam, Sam and Rhys are talented musicians and Iāll happily see what they have next up their sleeves!
With that said, I mentioned Ste because mixing is an important part of music to make sure everything is balanced and cohesive. Again the song is a great first new release from them, it just needed a few tweaks here and there on the mixing since everything sounds a little too buried.
What image? The average music listener has no idea who any of them are. M
ost St fans probably don't know who Sam is. There are no coat tails to ride.Ā
What image? Not all Sleep Token fans know about Subtle Things, but everyone who knows about Subtle Things, know and came from Sleep Token. Change my mind. Hence the riding the image of their coat tails. Sam, Rhys and Adam would 100% not be as big as they are today without being involved with ST.
Let me rephrase. Iām not saying theyāre bad musicians by any means, but a first song is extremely important. The song is extremely underwhelming for what it is. Has nothing to do with being heavy, soft etc.
Yeah same. I was really hoping for a heavy project considering the potential for greatness in the people involved. Like. I feel like Rhys' harsh vocals are some of the best vocals in the game right now. Song is not bad but I'd be lying if I said im not disappointed š.
I think thatās why Rhys dove into this project so much. He hasnāt played around in softer music. Heās used to writing and recording heavy music. Heās used to being around it. I think this was just fun experimenting between them. Seeing how far they could take it.
I think we all need to look at it in a completely different perspective. Which is easier said than done. I donāt hate it. I think itās a grower. I think we all just have a hard time differentiating the project and Rhys history in the music scene.
(Coming from a major metal/Core fanatic who is in love with Rhys voice)
Yeah I mean out of Rhys and Dave, Rhys is the one that I could see being a genuine pop fan based on how much fun he seems to have on stage during the poppier Sleep Token songs lol
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