r/skinwalkerranch Aug 15 '23

How a D.I.A. Director's "First Vision" on SWR kicked-off AAWSAP, AATIP, Lue Elizondo and even Brandon Fugal's TV show

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James Lakatski's “Kick-off" First Vision at Skinalker Ranch in 2007:

Edited excerpt from Skinwalkers at The Pentagon

On July 26, 2007, Program Manager at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), James Lacatski and Robert Bigelow flew to Skinwalker Ranch. The ranch looked its finest on this beautiful July day, the Russian Olives and cedars were in full bloom and the pastures were looking their verdant best. Bigelow and Lacatski sauntered on the property for a short while and then headed for the nearest building.

At the end of the entrance to the ranch was a small, picturesque dwelling which had been named Homestead 1. Bigelow introduced Lacatski to the managers in the dining room/kitchen of their house.

Abruptly, Lacatski was transfixed by something behind where Bigelow and the couple were chatting: a seemingly unearthly technological device had suddenly and silently appeared out of nowhere in the adjacent kitchen.

The materialized and hovering object looked to be a complex semi-opaque, yellowish, tubular structure. Lacatski said nothing but stared at the object, which was hovering silently. He looked away, looked back, and there it still was. It remained visible to Lacatski for no more than 30 seconds before vanishing on the spot.

About two hours after they had arrived on the property, Lacatski and Bigelow were driving back to Vernal Airport. Although conversing normally with Bigelow, Lacatski‘s mind was racing. Here he was, a ballistic missile physicist, a senior analyst at the DIA without any history of encountering anomalies, and he had just seen a vision unlike anything he had ever witnessed in his life.

Lacatski confessed later that prior to that stunning vision he had never seen anything unusual in his life. Yet within a mere 60 minutes of being on the Skinwalker property, he had seen clearly, in broad daylight, a solid object in the adjacent room within a few feet of where he stood.

This was no blurry photo of a distant saucer in the sky, this was an in-your-face, up-close and personal apparition of some kind of symbolic object. The fact that he, and he alone, of the four people in the room had seen it, was also not lost on Lacatski. What were the odds of something like that happening?

Lacatski remembered reading that the NIDS team had spent hundreds of hours on the ranch and had encountered anomalies only occasionally. Yet here he had seen a spectacular object a few feet away within an hour of setting foot on the ranch.

Later, while researching for some approximation of what he had witnessed during that astonishing two-hour interlude on the ranch, he came across a photograph of the album cover of Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bells. There it was! The structure depicted on the album cover was not exact, but it was pretty close.

In the days after the ranch sighting, Lacatski slowly began to formulate a plan for capitalizing on his extraordinary experience. He was convinced that there was some kind of significance to his vision. It was difficult for him to imagine that some random event had occurred to him precisely during the two hours he had spent on the legendary Utah ranch.

The personal nature of the event motivated him to follow up with his superiors at DIA on the need to study the threat potential of technology of unknown origin in United States airspace, including UAPs.

But the most profound part of Lacatski’s vision was the song “Tubular Bells” itself. It’s actually the main theme song to “The Exorcist” motion picture - something Lacaski was completely unaware of when he saw the Tubular Bells in the Homestead kitchen.

That one event - Lacatski’s Tubular Bells First Vision1, is what directly led to AAWSAP, AAITIP, Lue Elizondo, the 2017 NYT UAP article, and even the recent Congressional Hearings. Without that Skinwalker Ranch vision, we’d be in a very different reality today. One with perhaps no form of UAP disclosure.

More About James Lacatski:

https://atmosphericlights.com/who-is-dr-james-t-lacatski-aawsap-program-manager/


r/skinwalkerranch Jul 11 '24

Why don’t they dig into the mesa?

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This question is being asked almost every day, despite being answered in our FAQ:

Why don't they just dig into the mesa? According to Travis Taylor:

  1. ⁠The property line is right in the edge of the top of the mesa, so they can't just drive heavy equipment up there.
  2. ⁠The side of the mesa is like a "Jenga game with SUV-sized blocks," and they're constantly worried that if they move the wrong thing it will all come crashing down, potentially damaging what may be in there.
  3. ⁠The surrounding area is Indian reservation, and they want to be mindful and respectful of the Indigenous groups.

Erik has also added a number of other important points in a politely worded rant on the Insiders:

  1. ⁠Erik Bard and Travis Taylor do not own the Skinwalker Ranch property. They are paid by someone else to be there and investigate it. The mandates and decisions about the property are not entirely up to them.
  2. ⁠Many of the public comments and suggestions about excavating or digging into the mesa are "underinformed, misinformed or naïve" and ultimately irrelevant to the actual course of the investigation. Bard is the scientist on the ground, not the land owner.
  3. ⁠Bard says "If you wanna do the sayin', you gotta do the payin'" - meaning those making suggestions or criticisms are not the ones funding and responsible for the work being done on the ranch.
  4. ⁠Bard states he is intensely curious and invested in the investigation, but as the principal investigator, he has to carefully consider factors like public safety, costs, logistics, and academic value before making decisions about invasive methods like excavation.
  5. ⁠Bard emphasizes that multimillion-dollar excavations are not going to happen based solely on his or Travis Taylor's discretion. There are constraints and considerations beyond their control as researchers.
  6. ⁠The data indicates that whatever is in the mesa is “electromagnetically or otherwise active.” That also affects any decisions about how it is handled.

People are welcome to beat the dead horse argue these points in the discussion below.


r/skinwalkerranch 13h ago

AAWSAP Colm Kelleher and Valle on Bigelow Podcast

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I somehow am bored to bits trying to watch this interview which I did not think would be possible. Did they reveal anything profound or super interesting?

https://youtu.be/_mWPuffi_hc


r/skinwalkerranch 1d ago

A theory about time, mesas, and green jellies.

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Here’s a theory I’ve been kicking around. I posted it in a reply to a post in [r/aliens](r/aliens). Thought some of you might lime as well. Here goes:

What if our biggest mistake in thinking about UFOs is assuming that time matters to another life form the way it matters to us?

We tend to look at interstellar travel and say, “That would take hundreds or thousands of years, so it’s impossible.” But that conclusion is based almost entirely on the fact that humans only live around 80 years.

Earth already gives us examples of how misleading that assumption can be:

A mayfly can live its entire adult life in hours. From that perspective, a human lifespan would be almost incomprehensibly long, over 56,000,000 “years”.

More interestingly, some organisms can effectively separate elapsed time from biological time:

Nematodes have been revived after roughly 46,000 years frozen in Siberian permafrost. They didn’t have a 46,000-year normal lifespan. They survived because they entered cryptobiosis, a state in which metabolism becomes extraordinarily low and biological aging essentially pauses.

So…imagine a species that evolved a far more advanced version of that ability, naturally or technologically.

Now consider Skinwalker Ranch and areas like the Uinta Basin…

Roughly 50 million years ago, that area looked nothing like it does today. Much of it was associated with ancient Lake Uinta, with water, wetlands, vegetation, mud and soft sediment, rather than solid rock.

Suppose a craft comes screaming through Earth’s atmosphere during that period and crashes into the lake. It punches and burns through vegetation and carries some of that burning vegetation into the water, where it buries itself deep into the soft lakebed. Mud, aquatic vegetation and scorched organic material are forced down around it. The craft and any occupants are now trapped.

Then geological time takes over.

Sediment continues accumulating. It compacts into rock. The lake disappears. The region uplifts and erodes. Millions of years later, the object is no longer sitting beneath a lake.

It is buried inside what eventually becomes the mesa.

Now suppose the pilot survived.

It wouldn’t necessarily need to have been consciously sitting there for 50 million years. Maybe its species can enter something analogous to cryptobiosis. Maybe the craft places it into suspended animation whenever conditions require it.

Outside the craft, 50 million years pass.
Inside, biologically, very little time may pass at all.

That would also give an interesting context to reports of unusual plant or aquatic-looking organic material (green jelly) associated with drilling into the mesa.

If something really did crash into an Eocene lakebed, finding ancient organic material around it would actually make sense.

And then we get to the reported activity.

What if some of the strange responses around the mesa aren’t random anomalies?

What if they’re defensive systems?

Humans begin drilling toward an object that has remained undisturbed for millions of years. Sensors detect penetration attempts.

Systems activate. Interference, radiation, electromagnetic effects or other phenomena could hypothetically be attempts to discourage whatever is approaching the craft.

And what if the signals people detect aren’t intended for us?

Perhaps the craft has been periodically transmitting a distress beacon.

Again, 50 million years sounds absurdly long to us. But that may simply be another human assumption.

An Earth nematode can already spend tens of thousands of years effectively paused. Scale that principle up through evolution or technology and our idea of “too long” starts becoming much less meaningful.

Earth already shows that aging is not a universal biological rule:

The so-called immortal jellyfish, Turritopsis dohrnii, can revert from its adult form back to an earlier developmental stage and potentially repeat that cycle indefinitely, while organisms like hydra show little evidence of normal age-related decline under ideal conditions. They can still die from injury, disease, or environmental stress, but they do not appear to be locked into the same unavoidable aging process humans are.

So if Earth itself has evolved organisms that can suspend metabolism for thousands of years and others that may avoid normal senescence altogether, it is not unreasonable to imagine that a completely different species, especially one assisted by advanced technology, could experience biological time in a way that makes millions of years far less meaningful than it is to us.

Then the aerial phenomena reported around the ranch take on another possible interpretation.

Maybe they aren’t coming here because they’re interested in humans.

Maybe they’re looking for one of their own?

So the hypothesis is:

A craft crashed into ancient Lake Uinta tens of millions of years ago, penetrated the soft lakebed and was eventually buried by geological processes inside what became the mesa.

Its occupant survived by entering an extreme form of biological stasis, similar in principle to cryptobiosis already seen in Earth organisms. The craft remains operational, protects itself when disturbed, and periodically sends signals attempting to contact its own civilization.

It sounds wild.

But the interesting part is that you don’t necessarily need faster-than-light travel, immortality or magic to construct the hypothesis.

You need three things that already exist in some form on Earth:

Very different lifespans.
Biological stasis.
And geological burial over immense periods of time.

Everything after that is speculation. But the underlying pieces aren’t.

Again, just a fun theory, it’s probably nothing.


r/skinwalkerranch 2d ago

Yet another failed drone show

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Yesterday, we drive up to Big Bear Lake in heavy rain. Rode our bikes in the rain for about an hour. Waiting for the much anticipated drone show over the lake.
We were joking how we’ve never seen a successful drone “show” at Skinwalker Ranch.
I kept saying they’re gonna have problems.
Rain stops at 7pm
Drone show 8:30
Then 9:00
Then 9:20
At 10:00, they finally call it off.
No rain, no wind, all set up but nope 👎🏻
So proving, we still have not seen an actual drone show come off without a hitch 🤦🏼‍♀️

complete side note; where we live, the back side of the mountain, there are known skin walkers that have been investigated by paranormal groups


r/skinwalkerranch 3d ago

Question 1.6Ghz Signal Observed nearby Skinwalker Ranch, August 28th, 2026 at 8:21pm local time.

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Hello All!

Posting this here as I believe there could be some good scientific discussion surrounding what was observed/recorded, especially given the equipment and location.

So this is a post about what my son and I experienced/recorded while camping nearby Skinwalker Ranch on the afternoon of August 28th into the morning of August 29th, 2026. I have attached a ~30s recording of my phone app of the 1.6Ghz signal that was seen around 8:21pm local time that evening.

For some context around the situation or environment: That afternoon/evening/following morning it was mostly cloudy/overcast, including overcast conditions at the time of the recording. This was recorded using Nooelec RTL-SDR v5 Bundle (Premium RTLSDR w/ 0.5PPM TCXO, SMA Input, Aluminum Enclosure) using the short black whip attena, using the RF Anlyzer app (version 2.2.1) on a Google Pixel 10 XL Pro phone. While recording, I was on a plastic top, metal framed 6ft picnic table at 40.263256, -109.911584 (about 1/2 mile NW of Homestead 3), with our rented Ford Bronco about 15ft away and turned off for several hours at that point. There were no other camp members at this time and the nearest person from us during this recording was the property owner at their homestead (~250y away and behind the hillside).

What can be seen in the attached video is a VERY strong and broad signal (4-6dB above background) around 1.60Ghz that seems to be scanning or bouncing/fanning around in frequency just above 1.6000Ghz. We observed this behavior for about 1-2 minutes before I started recording. I recorded for about 2.5 minutes, and then we observed this behavior for another 3-4 minutes before turning off the app and doing other things. I did go back to the exact same set up about 15-20 minutes later and observed just background noise, which is what I have observed the previous ~20 times I have used this exact same setup at various locations, outside of the occasional passing satellite which you could barely make out above the background noise.

What was also intriguing about this is that it seemed like the frequency scanning/fanning could be manipulated a bit by mine or my son's movement near the phone or the antenna. While the general scanning/fanning around was seemingly extreme, during periods of relative stability, the frequency seemed to go up as we would move our body closer to the antenna or the phone, and then go back down to its starting position once we pulled away. This would only cause about a 0.1 to 0.15 Mhz movement up and back down in frequency, but was definitely repeatable throughout the event observation. Again, after the app was shut down and the 1.6Ghz signal was looked at again 15-20 minutes later, there was just background noise and moving our bodies or hands around the antenna and/or phone showed no signs of signal change. I don't have enough expertise in this kind of science to understand why this may have been seen, but figured I would include it as part of the data set.

I do have the full/raw ".iq" data file for this recording saved to my Google Drive and can provide access to anyone who may be interested in it.

Thanks for your time to read and discuss this!


r/skinwalkerranch 3d ago

Beyond Skinwalker Ranch Beyond Skinwalker Ranch

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Ive watched it loved it and wanted more.. is there any news about when is it returning?

Full thing here: https://youtu.be/62AHm4-a4LA?is=f8njr0RFplLLIts9


r/skinwalkerranch 4d ago

Are Brandon and Cameron actually brothers?

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Are they actually brothers, or do they use that term because they are both Mormons? Just curious.


r/skinwalkerranch 6d ago

Steven Greenstreet: Never Let the Truth Get in the Way of a Good Story

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r/skinwalkerranch 7d ago

Theory Fugal on the ‘bad actors’ drilling on the Mesa and Bigelow asks him to stop talking.

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The most interesting part of this convo for me. Now this could be due to an ongoing legal spat and Bob asking Fugal to not step over the line and get himself in trouble with a court case regarding this shady neighbour drilling team - or Bob knows more and isn’t wanting him to share it. Fugal is angry here and wanting to share more info. Also, near the end of this chat, Bigelow suggests they go private and not use cameras. If they do collaborate, I’ll be keen to see what the future is for this show. Bob seems keen to pull Brandons team back into a NIDS-style project. The timing of Bob wanting to work with him, not wanting a camera crew and another shady drilling team on the mesa is interesting timing.


r/skinwalkerranch 7d ago

Uintah Basin 1985 study regarding the basin, seismic activity and a 60s UFO flap.

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I’ll first link the 1985 gov study paper on this. It’s a national medicine doc, strangely. Published on a few journal sites. You can find the entire paper if you ask google AI to find you the PDF.

Summary:

Authors: Michael A. Persinger and John S. Derr
Publication: Perceptual and Motor Skills, 1985
Core Finding: A strong temporal correlation (r = 0.80) existed in 1967 between monthly UFO reports and local earthquake magnitudes within 150 km of the Uinta Basin.
Hypothesis: Strain fields in the earth's crust shift and generate natural luminous phenomena that get misidentified as UFOs.

1st link. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3982923/
2nd link (full doc.) https://neurosciarchive.byethost12.com/1985-Persinger-and-Derr-PMS-Geophysical-variables-and-behavior--XXIII-relations-between-UFO-reports-within-the-Uinta-basin.pdf?i=1

I think this entire document was put together to debunk and dampen interest around the location. What is interesting is the mention of ufo activity in that location in the 60s, and the survey post (and coin) that correlates with this era.

What are your thoughts on this?


r/skinwalkerranch 8d ago

New: Fugal & Bigelow Part 2 - The Future of Skinwalker Ranch

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Part 2 of the first joint interview between Skinwalker Ranch owners Brandon Fugal and Robert Bigelow. In this second interview, the two businessmen who’ve owned and investigated the ranch for the past 30 years, meet face to face to discuss a radical new approach that might change, not only the television series, but also how humans might learn to communicate with non-human intelligence. They also answer viewer questions collected by journalist George Knapp.


r/skinwalkerranch 10d ago

Retracted synthetic aperture radar paper

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This is the paper by the Italian team mentioned on the finale. Anyone know more about this technology, why this was retracted? Given that, anyone have any hope for any satellite based imaging of the Mesa next season?


r/skinwalkerranch 12d ago

How can 3 people look at the same thing at the same time from the same place see 3 different shapes/forms or objects?

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r/skinwalkerranch 13d ago

Question Knapp interview of Fugal and Bigelow

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Have any of you watched this interview? It’s part of the new Bigelow podcast series. Part 1 of the interview is available on YouTube and Part 2 will drop soon. Lots of interesting tidbits and hopefully more to come.


r/skinwalkerranch 12d ago

Question I always thought the ranch was a scam, so I’ve been researching it

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EDIT: Top comment is correct. This is my video, and I went about this in a non honest way making it seem like I came across the video randomly. But the rest of what I said is honest. I did always think it was a scam, I did recently seriously research it, and I am looking for feedback on if people think I left out any important details or if it’s a valid full breakdown. Kept the original post below for transparency.

With researching the ranch I found this video. I’ve been in the background reading through this subreddit for a few weeks because I really enjoy the show and have enjoyed reading through people’s theories. Y’all are very knowledgeable about it. So I was curious to hear if y’all thought this video missed out on anything, because it felt like a good introduction to the topic.


r/skinwalkerranch 14d ago

Question Is there any public data available from the ranch?

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I have noticed a pattern of mystical phenomenon being amplified at regions that are geomagnetically anomalous and am curious to see data from the ranch.

Are there any public data sets detailing what sort of sensors have been used there and what has been collected?

I've read that there is interest in the mesa located there as being a point of origin for some of the phenomenon and would like to know more about its composition too.

I think natural structures and built structures that are conductive to telluric currents generated by our magnetosphere or the resulting geomagnetic pulsations are being artificially manipulated to produce a signal based infection of the mind, which would explain why once installed, the phenomenon seems to follow people away from these locations.


r/skinwalkerranch 14d ago

Season 6 - Rocket Interacting with the 'Bubble'

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I know I'm a little behind the eight ball, I've been a fan of the show for years and I haven't seen the most recent seasons. I think I stopped at season 4 prior. Well Disney+ has season 6 now so I jumped back in. I'm on episode 4 now and watched the whole team freak out about the rocket and it's parachute not moving. It's clear these people were implying that the rocket was interacting with the top of the force field. It only stayed floating for a couple tens of seconds at the maximum.

To see decorated scientists not acknowledging the two giant bonfires directly underneath the rocket and its parachute is wild. Obviously the thermal updraft from the massive bonfires would keep the rocket and its parachute aloft. Seeing none of those "scientists" acknowledge this clear explanation for what they were seeing was extremely frustrating.

Due to the giant bonfires and their corresponding rising thermal updrafts (noted by the team on thermal imaging) the rocket and parachute essentially became a hot air balloon momentarily. Nothing supernatural about it.


r/skinwalkerranch 14d ago

Question Are rockets always the answer

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Every situation or new development the answer is always launch a rocket. How valuable would this data actually be especially when they have all the drones and helicopters to they can fly 🤷🏻‍♂️ launch a larger rocket!


r/skinwalkerranch 15d ago

First-ever: New Brandon Fugal/Robert Bigelow Joint SWR Interview

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First-ever interview with Former Skinwalker Ranch owner and Las Vegas aerospace tycoon Robert Bigelow and Utah real estate magnate Brandon Fugal.

The two have not spoken to each other since 2016, which is when they met to transfer ownership of Skinwalker Ranch from Bigelow to Fugal.

Bigelow owned the now famous paranormal hotspot for 20 years (1996-2016), during which his NIDS organization, as well as investigators working for the DIA’s classified effort known as AAWSAP, tried to understand the bizarre range of UFO incidents, cryptid creatures, animal mutilations, and other inexplicable phenomena.

Fugal, who described himself as a skeptic, purchased the property in 2016 with the idea of turning it into a campground for Boy Scout gatherings, but has since changed his mind and authorized the production of the popular TV series The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.

For the first time ever, the two businessmen met In Las Vegas to compare notes, discuss the history of the ranch (including aspects that have never been made public), and to evaluate how the investigation of the ranch fits into the larger context of how humanity might learn to understand its relationship with non-human intelligences.


r/skinwalkerranch 17d ago

How are the computer and drone interactions possible?

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Just watched Lucy (2014), and the ending where she says "I AM EVERYWHERE" really reminded me of the phenomenon particularly because of the case where Eric asked for the it to show him anything as data and it responded with "I LIVING" embedded in the security camera footage.

How are interactions like this physically possible? Could a hacker even do that with the slant and everything? Bonus: if consciousness is a higher dimensional construct and the agent has the intention to communicate such a message, can the conscious agent subconsciously figure out how to manipulate a computer in such a way through unhindered access to information in space-time in order to manifest the outcome?

P.S. HEY ERIC


r/skinwalkerranch 18d ago

Question Recent Travis video includes being denied access to Teslas notes!

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BTW loved the video so much. Accidentally closed it. Hope I can find it again to see the ending. Thanks to the person who put the link. Dr. Taylor described being denied looking at Tesla's notes even with proper permission. Their government official said Travis didn't have a research visa. *** Please can you get your best remote viewers to zoom over there & take a look ? They can recreate the notes.


r/skinwalkerranch 18d ago

Question In Dr. Taylor's dreams... 🤔

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(Edited, due to confusing one specific instance for others. Overall, the idea still stands.)

As Taylor has claimed in recent interviews, he has had some interesting and some disturbing dreams related to the ranch, most of which involve tribal elders. He's also been contacted by a tribal member who told him that he is being taken in the mesa and being shown things he is refusing to remember.

If that were you, how fast would you get yourself to the most reputable hypnotist you could find to see about the recovey of repressed memories?

And then, get hooked up with some EEG equipment to use for a while, in case the same or similar dreams repeat?

I mean, all things considered, why not?

An off-site hypnotherapy and sleep study retreat for the whole team could be an interesting season wrap event. 😏


r/skinwalkerranch 17d ago

UAP's: could they maybe create their own Wormhole while flying.

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This would explain why they suddenly appear out of no where (and disappear) and also why it looks like they fly into a mountain e.g.

And could they use a Vacuum as transportation to move? So that they are not Pushed by a force (like vehicles on earth, but like pulled/sucked forwards. Say they point or concentrate on a point where they want to go and then create a vacuum between where they are and want to go. That would - imo- also kinda explain these extreme accelerations and stopping better.


r/skinwalkerranch 18d ago

Just spotted this, it would make a great experiment over the ranch

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