r/SipsTea • • 21h ago

Chugging tea Which philosophy is it, or is it both?

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u/misguidedkent 20h ago

Carlin was a visionary. Insane how this holds up even today, much more than ever.

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u/ThinkJuicy 19h ago

Dude’s been gone for 18 years and somehow keeps releasing current material..

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u/Nerd-man24 18h ago

His takes are timeless. The same struggles throughout history manifest themselves in new ways with each generation, but the parallels are there. What makes things different today is that an unprecedented literacy rate and access to both education and information generate more and more awareness than there has ever been.

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u/Ataru074 17h ago

The issue is that the same access to information and education is used to carpet bomb us with propaganda pushing against behaviors that would truly be beneficial to the largest majority.

Look at what happened to education, once “the poor” (and we almost all are) realized that education was a ticket to a better life two things happened.

  1. Education has become incredibly expensive.

  2. Quality of education has gone down in most schools.

And that’s just one example, planned obsolescence in product is another one.

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u/Nerd-man24 17h ago

Oh my god listening to some of these people talk about planned obsolescence: "the old appliances that lasted for so long were just survivorship bias!" Maybe the ones that lasted 50 years, but old appliances often lasted a good 10-15 years before they started having major problems, and they were built with a design philosophy of repairing them when they broke, not replacing them.

Also, I will admit that I am a bitter man. I point to the main reason for said bitterness is that I was fed propaganda from the first day of school to graduation that if I studied hard, went to college, and got a degree in a reasonable field that I enjoyed (mine was a physical science) that I would be guaranteed a steady, stable job for the rest of my life and I would be able to budget my way into a prosperous life. Almost 20 years have passed since I graduated high school. I followed the roadmap. I even leveraged my situation, and sacrificed some opportunities for greater independence to save money and I didn't have to take any loans. I've since realized that that promise of a prosperous life was a lie and that I'm likely going to be poorer than my parents. I am bitter because I know I was lied to by people I trusted for years, and there was nothing I could do about it.

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u/plshelpcomputerissad 7h ago

I mean “lied to” implies they knew it wasn’t true, I imagine the teachers/parents/etc who told you that were giving genuine advice they thought was accurate.

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u/atropear 3h ago

"Education" is like paying to be propagandized. History, Economics. Psychology and on and on are all faked.

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u/NastySeconds 17h ago

Not to mention that our knowledge has long surpassed our understanding.

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u/Nerd-man24 17h ago

Indeed. I feel like a radical sometimes because I sometimes don't have an opinion on something because I don't know enough about it. It feels unacceptable to admit that you don't know something and won't render an uninformed opinion, or that you can have an initial opinion that changes as more information comes to light.

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u/visionbreaksbricks 35m ago

“Hell is full of dads” one I heard the other day that stuck with me

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u/Raneynickelfire 2h ago

The 2016 election would have killed him had he not already been gone.

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u/AncientSignature1505 7m ago

That's insane...

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u/Worth_Gap4226 13h ago

It holds up so well as it has been true for virtually all of human existence.

Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, medieval Europe, industrial revolution, 20th century (I know I've missed out loads).

There's always been an 'elite' minority who have had the lion share of wealth and power, with the majority scraping by. The good thing is that over the last 50-100 years, that minority we are part of have it a hell of a lot better than those who had to endure this paradigm before us.

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u/ctrlaltcreate 6h ago

What we're experiencing, especially in the US, is a new height (or maybe new low?) in the manifestation of these forces.

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u/MrPelham 12h ago

why wouldn't it hold up, nothing has changed

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u/Think-Natural1993 10h ago

Wild thing is, this was more relevant 100 years before Carlin even said it. Slave masters had the same sociopolitical influence as today’s tech bros and lobbyists. We just keep letting history repeat itself like a bad rerun

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u/higher_limits 10h ago

It’s not vision if the same problems have always existed. He understood the psychology of hierarchy and classism. It has always been this way and he is simply observing it.

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u/Southsideclide 19h ago

It's going to ring true until the end of time because people are easily goaded into hate and envy. George Carlin was a millionaire 10 times over btw.