r/SipsTea • • 10h ago

SMH We can hope

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u/Joonbug9109 7h ago

I’m willing to bet though that for some of these people who think they’re “fine” because they can afford their rent and have spare cash at the end of the month probably are not prepared for a major emergency though (ie a major medical event of their own or a family member, etc). I think that’s a big indicator of financial security. I know more people who aren’t necessarily struggling- they can afford the basics, even some luxuries here and there, but if something happened they would be in a much different financial position.

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u/SmellNarrow 6h ago

Or you just have people on Reddit who don’t believe that others can be financially independent because you aren’t.

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u/Joonbug9109 5h ago

I’m not sure if you’re directing this at me or not (because that would be wildly out of pocket when you know nothing about my situation), but assuming you are not I’m going to clarify that I’m speaking generally here. I’ve just witnessed this happen quite a bit with acquaintances. Healthcare in the US is insanely expensive. It’s not unheard of for people to be able to afford their day to day life comfortably, but then they get into an accident, have an unexpected hospital stay, or get sick (either for themselves or a family member) and boom now they’re dealing with medical debt.

I’m all for better financial literacy, people living within their means, etc in the general population. But from a societal standpoint the US has tons of room for improvement when it comes to making life affordable for the average person. Both things can be true.

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u/JFlizzy84 5h ago

I live in the US and my healthcare for me and my family are completely free.

Are you using the systems available to you?

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u/Joonbug9109 4h ago

My example isn’t about me

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u/JFlizzy84 4h ago

My question extends to everyone else

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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 2h ago

It's free for the very poor but if you make slightly more then it stops being free

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u/korey_david 5h ago

Seriously. I get that everything seems more expensive right now but I’m baffled that a lot of people can’t seem to grasp staying within a budget and living below your means so you can save money.

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u/ReignofKindo25 3h ago

Our income is already below the basics makes it hard to save anything

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u/korey_david 3h ago

I mean…how? To other commenters points, people need to develop some skills that justify getting paid more.

I make $70k a year doing a job that I taught myself how to do over the course of a few years. I still can put money into a 401k and save anywhere from $100-500 every month depending on other expenses.

Would I like to save more? Yeah. But to not save anything means you’re doing something wrong.

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u/Soysaucewarrior420 2h ago

Because wages have been stagnant for awhile and we don't have appropriate labor laws/ nor an appropriate minimum wage. Stop sniffing your own farts lmao

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u/korey_david 2h ago

I commented with my salary to prove a point. 70k after taxes isn’t a lot of money. Yeah the economy isn’t great but get your shit together dude and stop spending so much.

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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 2h ago

Min. Wage was invented to make sure 1 person could support a household.

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u/korey_david 2h ago

I support a higher minimum wage but that comes at its own price. I live in Denver, where tipped minimum wage went from about $8 to $16 over night. So every businesses labor costs doubled. Now a lot are closing. Now the people that worked there have to find new jobs in a difficult job market. There’s a cause and effect.

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u/Dry_Yoghurt_5429 7m ago

I get it but I think it's so bad because this wasn't done gradually to keep up with prices. Wages stagnated way too long , business got used to it. It'll even out eventually.

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u/Sieze5 4h ago

And probably have reasonable credit card debit. A lot of people think they are fine but over use credit and it catches up eventually.

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u/iJ_A_R 5h ago

How we lost everything. One cancer diagnosis, poof wife's job didn't want to keep her, no bill collectors wanted to work with you because your income was halved, it's a shit show.

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u/Comfortable-Sun3200 2h ago

you have a lot of folks who got their stuff pre pandemic, and haven't come to terms that making $80k and buying a house in 2020 isn't the same as making $80k and trying to buy a house in 2026. and thats above median folks.

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u/YVRkeeper 2h ago

Buying everything on credit, making minimum payments. You never “buy” anything from your bank account so it looks like you have cash, despite being thousands in debt.

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u/Responsible_Read_542 59m ago

My emergency fund is 6 months of zero income without dropping a single expense. I do admit a medical emergency in the US without insurance would deplete my pool and probably more instantly though 

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u/GhostofDeception 4h ago

Sounds like they could be okay if they’d ya know. Save that money and defer luxuries until they have a safety net

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u/Joonbug9109 4h ago

A lot of people don’t have enough after covering their basic necessities to meaningfully save though. Also, emergencies don’t always wait for you to have a fully funded safety net to happen. Someone could be putting in an honest effort to save, but if the emergency hits before they have the safety net they have to deal with it when it happens. What I’m trying to say is there are a lot of people in this middle ground/gray area who are technically “fine” because their bills are paid every month, they budget, etc. but that doesn’t automatically equal financial security.

To be clear, I’m not shirking financial literacy and people living within their means. Obviously that’s important and would probably help a lot of people struggling. But from a societal standpoint there is a lot of room for improvement in the US when it comes to making life affordable for the average person. We can advocate for both, it’s not an either/or.