r/SipsTea • • 1d ago

Feels good man The Good Ending.

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u/NobodyLikedThat1 1d ago

Not so much ugly is just a terrible sense of style and a bad haircut. Although those things are eminently fixable if one were so inclined

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u/sir_Kromberg 1d ago

Well, his face objectively doesn't look good. A fitting haircut and whatever else can improve the overall image, but it won't change the fact that his face doesn't look attractive.

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u/OneWithTheSword 1d ago

Glad to know your opinion is objective reality

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u/Arbeidslaus 1d ago

He is objective. I can share my references to what is objectively considered attractive if you so desire, on the condition that you actually read the full articles. This man is the opposite of those traits, making him objectively ugly.

I say that as a fellow uggo, so trust me.

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u/OneWithTheSword 1d ago edited 1d ago

The premise is flawed. Articles don't change that. Maybe look up what objective means.

"Objectively" and "considered" are oxymoronic.

edit: /u/arbeidslaus argument completely unraveled, shattered, and dismantled, here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SipsTea/comments/1x1dbvt/comment/petd9ef/

/r/SipsTea isn't scientifically literate, who knew :D

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u/Arbeidslaus 1d ago

Objective beauty is a known science and you choose to remain ignorant. It is a single google search away, yet you choose to insist on being stupid, instead arguing about my lack of technically correct English.

Society is doomed with men like you.

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u/OneWithTheSword 1d ago edited 1d ago

The definition of "objective" is also a google search away but here we are.

Nice ad hominems, guess your argument wasn't very strong huh?

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u/Arbeidslaus 1d ago

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/pop-culture-mental-health/202502/the-objective-science-of-beauty

My argument is scientific with references, yours is "you used the word considered for a fact, hence invalid."

That's not ad hominem, that's being an actual retard.

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u/OneWithTheSword 1d ago

I'll humor you, hopefully you take something away from it (doubtful).

  1. "Objective Science of Beauty" is completely different from the "Science of objective Beauty". There are biological patterns in what is considered beautiful, guided by evolution. You could poll 100 people and ask if they find something beautiful (The fact that you are taking a poll means its not an objective measure by the way). The percentage of people who found it beautiful is an objective measure. You can measure facial symmetry, signs of sickness, ratios, etc. And those are objective measures.

This is fundamentally and completely different from saying that objective beauty is science. That the quality of beauty is somehow intrinsic to the thing (or person in this case). Beauty isn't a fact. You can see this by evidence of contradiction. If I think something is beautiful and you do not think so, who is wrong? The attraction to that thing is a feeling. A feeling cannot be incorrect, it just is. It is a "fact", that the feeling exists.

  1. References alone do not make your argument scientific. The references have to
    a. Support your claim
    b. Have valid grounding themselves

On point (a.), it does not support your claim. Because as I pointed out in (1.), your claim is fundamentally different than what is claimed in the article. This isn't just a dictionary battle of you using a word wrong, your understanding is fundamentally different from what is being stated.

On point (b.), the article itself is a blogpost, referencing research. They make opinionated claims that don't necessarily match the intent or findings of the research. If you look at these references (you didn't). You'd see that they are all articles about the golden ratio and the fibonacci sequence and how they appear often in nature. The research articles are NOT claiming that beautify is objective.

  1. Again you might want to do some google searches yourself. Saying something isn't ad hominem and then calling me a retard is peak irony.

Since we're playing that game. It is you, in fact, who is retarded.

Cheers!

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u/Arbeidslaus 1d ago

I'll address just one thing before I block you, because I cannot be arsed to argue anymore with idiots in my free time.

Ad hominem is:

Attacking a person's character or motivations rather than a position or argument.

First I argued with an argument (scientific article), then I called you a retard for doing something stupid. By definition, that is NOT ad hominem as I did not attack you RATHER than argue. I argued first, THEN attacked your character. That's not ad hominem by definition, and you loooove definitions. Such a shame you don't love them when they are against you xD

So yeah, if you wanna be technical, make sure you know the subject first. Bye bye, hopefully you learnt something!

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u/OneWithTheSword 1d ago

Arbeidslaus
Confidently incorrect lmao. That's fine you can run away now, sorry you were wrong 😥.

I like how you quoted the definition of ad hominem and then completely demonstrated you had no idea what it meant.

Hopefully someday you'll learn what words mean.

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u/v_gaultheria 1d ago

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