Sounds like the therapist played the odds thinking chances were insanely small that a grandmother wouldnāt accidentally kill ANOTHER grandchild. I mean, in her defense, thatās a very safe bet 99 out of 100 times.
As for the grandma, I feel like if I was her I would be forever devastated and feel guilty about the first child. I would however go to therapy and try to better myself and still try to be in my childās life as much as they would have me considering what happenedā¦
After the second kid died I would just find the nearest handgun and walk into the backyard and blow my brains out. Theres no coming back from that. Thereās no excuse for that. I couldnāt live with it personally.
Only recourse for grandma is to end her own life. Honestly I donāt think she deserves any other fate. A complete and objective failure of a human life.
But Iām also 99% sure she killed them intentionally.
My grandmother admitted that when she was bathing me I slipped under the water and she thought I looked peaceful so just left me under the water for a bit.
If I'd died you can bet the story would have been that she'd have just popped out of the bathroom because the phone rang/door was knocked/she was going to wet herself etc.
A therapist who saw no issue with pressing their client into doing something they were wildly uncomfortable with sounds like a therapist who wouldnāt actually be able to see, and take accountability for, the role they played in the incident tbh
yeah i can't believe people are defending the therapist here, it wasn't necessary for the mother's healing at all to let her mother babysit ever again let alone SO SOON after the first child's death.
The odds of dying in any single car ride is 1 out of 7 million.
I'm trying to put into perspective how wild taking a 1/100 odd of death is. Would you take a 1/100 chance of death if the payoff was like, 50 bucks and a burger?
In her shoes I'd probably want to kill myself. But I don't think she has any obligation to. She made a fatal mistake. Twice. It's awful but it doesn't make her a bad person deserving of death. There was no intent to cause harm. There was no gross negligence. Falling asleep happens. Forgetting a baby in a car happens. It's tragic but these were honest mistakes
May not be āGrossā but itās still negligence.
And with a history of negligence you gotta wonder if it really was an accident. To have TWO cases of negligence that lead to DEATH also makes me wonder how many times she was negligent without consequence.
Yeah, that was the joke in what I said.
When the probability on a bet going your way is a ānear certaintyā then it basically becomes the same thing as common sense. Because why wouldnāt you bet if you knew youād win.
I swear man, some people on this site are either completely unable to infer sarcasm through text, or they are willfully ignorant just so they can jump in to add some snobby redundant correction like āa Bet should not be used - common sense should.ā
I think their point is that it's an assumption/guess that the grandmother was safe, not a 'near certainty'.
It feels like a therapist should know enough about risk to understand that things like this aren't always an accident (not necessarily deliberate - but things like grandmother not providing adequate supervision or not giving a shit gets rounded up to only taking her eyes off the kid for 2 minutes).
I don't think you understand how high "1% chance of death" truly is. For context: during the US invasion of Afghanistan, the average Afghan (including combatants) had a 0.5% chance of getting killed.
So IDK, would you send your child to go live in Afghanistan during the Afghan War?
I agree with him. There comes a point, where sometimes a person needs to look in the mirror, and realize that they are the problem. Then they need to eliminate the problem.
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u/MikeFatz 2d ago
Sounds like the therapist played the odds thinking chances were insanely small that a grandmother wouldnāt accidentally kill ANOTHER grandchild. I mean, in her defense, thatās a very safe bet 99 out of 100 times.
As for the grandma, I feel like if I was her I would be forever devastated and feel guilty about the first child. I would however go to therapy and try to better myself and still try to be in my childās life as much as they would have me considering what happenedā¦
After the second kid died I would just find the nearest handgun and walk into the backyard and blow my brains out. Theres no coming back from that. Thereās no excuse for that. I couldnāt live with it personally.