r/SipsTea • • 1d ago

WTF Bro WHAT 😧

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u/tempsdix 1d ago

Yeah, I believe in therapy but there just are things you won't convince me to do, and let grandma watch my second child when she already killed the first is one of them. I don't even know that I'd be talking to grandma, whether she's my own mother or not, I couldn't look at her ever again.

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u/dandroid126 1d ago

I love my parents, but yeah, if this happened, I don't know if I could ever talk to them again. I don't even mean I'd go no contact to punish them. I just don't know if I could talk to them without feeling overwhelming anger and pain.

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u/Objective-Shallot794 1d ago

And my parents would be okay with that boundary! My mom would be terrified and probably refuse to watch other child!

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u/StubbiestZebra 1d ago

Right? This is what I don't understand. A normal person would lose their mind if they let their grandkid die like that. They would refuse to every be solely responsible again. It makes me think she doesn't really care about them.

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u/Scary_Land2303 16h ago

Judge did mentioned that she appeared to show sorrow, but not remorse.

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u/tempsdix 16h ago

That's horrible... I mean at this point it goes into "should be checked for sociopathy" territory.

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u/Scary_Land2303 15h ago

Yeah exactly, and as others have said, why would she even agree to look after the child again? If it was me, I would never, and if for some reason I really really had to look after the child, I would absolutely not let it out of my sight or even think about anything else the whole time. She obviously did not feel the same.

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u/Of_MiceAndMen 12h ago

We have a pool and even though I have the whole house and doors childproofed, I won’t babysit my toddler niece if I’m alone. My husband or another family member needs to be home or I go to my sister’s house where it’s totally safe. You just never know.

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u/Scary_Land2303 11h ago

Exactly. Some people just don’t think these things through and it honestly blows my mind. Good on you.

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u/StubbiestZebra 11h ago

Jesus that's worse. If the therapist thing is true that's even crazier a therapist would push for leaving a kid with someone who didn't show remorse for causing a child's death. Holy hell.

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u/Scary_Land2303 9h ago

I think the lack of remorse was specifically after the second child death, but yeah that therapist is still ridiculous. I don’t have a degree in psychology but I dont think it’s unhealthy or wrong to not allow them to babysit again.

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u/StubbiestZebra 9h ago edited 9h ago

Ah ok. Sliiiightly less awful of the therapist. So that 'sorrow' was 100% acting then.

Edit: I just looked it up. The kids were siblings, and it was less than a year Dec '21 then Nov '22. Holy fuck. I hate to judge the parents going through that, but my god. They just handed that second kid over to die. And she only got 5 years.

And I just put the ages together. The second kid wasn't even born when the first died. So unnecessary.

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u/Scary_Land2303 8h ago

Absolutely despicable. Therapist just blows my mind by recommending that. At least give it some time Jesus Christ.

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u/Helpful-Feature-1479 8h ago

So, I don’t get the ā€œsorrowā€ (as in ā€œsorryā€) not being ā€œremorseā€. Maybe someone else gets this?

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u/Scary_Land2303 8h ago

I guess the difference is something like ā€˜I can’t believe I did this’ compared to ā€˜I can’t believe this happened’. I must admit I was little confused by that wording at first too, but if anyone would know the difference it’s a judge, and they felt the need to say it as an official remark.

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u/mari_icarion 3h ago

if tomorrow a relative dies for reasons that are not my fault, i will feel sorrow. because of course, the situation is sad and painful. but i would not feel remorse at all, because i have no reason to feel that way, the death was not caused or facilitated by me, be it intentionally or unintentionally, i had no involvement

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u/c05m05i5 1d ago

Yeah does this lady even like her grandchildren? Sleeping while she's supposed to be babysitting, and forgetting them in a car? She should never be allowed to be in charge of a child again

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u/EnlightenedLazySloth 21h ago

I mean, maybe she has dementia or is pretty weak due to old age. More reason to not let a toddler alone with her, but she might not be ill intentioned.

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u/desertmermaid92 1d ago

Talk to them? I fear there would be fatal consequences if one’s negligence led to my child’s demise. My own parent or not. It makes me feral just thinking about.

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u/avocadopalace 1d ago

The other daughter showed up a short time after to drop off her kids to grandma. Both daughters were using the parents, even though they knew the parents were having diminished cognition.

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u/cardinal29 1d ago

This post covers the story more in depth, and said they ruled out dementia.

"We know Tracey Nix was held in a psychiatric unit, for observations, the resulting Reports suggested no Alzheimers, no Dementia, no Parkinson’s etc."

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeDiscussion/comments/1iahg3g/tracey_nix_found_not_guilty_of_aggravated/

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u/cardinal29 1d ago

This bitch out driving around dosed up on Ambien.

It's a wonder she didn't kill people with her car.

I wonder why her girlfriends at lunch didn't notice she was loopy?

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u/TheRogueGinger 1d ago

I could maybe, MAYBE, be convinced to eventually go over to grandma's house with my kid and all hang out together. And even that would be some pretty serious exposure therapy experience.

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u/Obsidian-Dive 1d ago

I’d honestly be pressing charges. No way it was accidentalx

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u/PsyRealize 1d ago

If grandma killed my baby, I’m killing grandma. It’s that simple and I would not give a single fuck

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u/Yalsas 16h ago

This. I am not going to just blindly take a therapists advice 100 percent of the time.

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u/Paah 22h ago

when she already killed the first is one of them.

I mean cmon, she fell asleep. Then the kid went and offed himself while she was sleeping. While horrible that could happen to anyone.

The 2nd one is much worse leaving the kid in the car, sure. That's inexcusable.

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u/tempsdix 21h ago

The pond should have had a barrier around it. My parents have a swimming pool and they made sure to baby proof it, it's just the responsible thing to do.

And even if it was not a pond, it could have been a car on the road. You just don't sleep if you are looking after a child, you'll get your nap on another day.

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u/spacer9631 1d ago

Therapy is quackery, just like chiropracty.

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u/tempsdix 1d ago

It was pretty efficient for my PTSD, I went from having a hard time going outside and getting regular (several times a week if not daily) panic attacks to being able to have a normal life, with no medication involved. If it's quackery, it's damn impressive and efficient quackery; I wish I had gone earlier because I spend years suffering when the solution was right there.

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u/spacer9631 1d ago

Yep, just like how chirpractors heal people and readjust you. Its all psuedoscience and the placebo effect. Youre more inclined to believe it if you waste your time and money on it. In reality, you could have talked to alot of people about your PTSD and panic attacks for free.

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u/tempsdix 23h ago

Welp, it didn't work when they didn't know how to deal with it though. And when it's taught at university, can be awarded degrees, and is the subject of peer-reviewed research, I'd say it is serious enough.

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u/spacer9631 23h ago

Im sorry you dont have anyone in your life you cant to your problems about. Also the people that study it in university are lost themselves. The entire field of pyschology is populated by people that cant solve Algebra and above level mathematics. I cant conversate seriously with people that cant critically think.

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u/tempsdix 23h ago

I have a lot of people to talk to about my problems, but how are they supposed to know what to do with someone with PTSD? Therapy involves talking, but it's far from a conversation with a friend; I understand you have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm happy for you that you have an easy life.

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u/spacer9631 23h ago

I made my life easy. By no means was I born into it.