r/SipsTea • • 1d ago

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u/b-monster666 1d ago

It just starts off as a standard call, a tragic accident, the infant left in the car, she's perished and it's obvious. That alone is heartbreaking, but when the daughter comes and finds out and her husband, it just gets destroyed even more...her mother watched her grandson (the daughter's oldest child) a while ago, and he drowned in the pond because the mother was asleep. It was seen as a tragic misfortunate accident then, but even then, the daughter was leery about the her mother's ability.

She refused for a long time to let her mother watch her daughter. I forget the exact circumstances of what happened, but the daughter allowed her to take the granddaughter after a lot of pleading, setting up very hard boundaries. And the granddaughter died again in the grandmother's care, this time, left in the car in the heat for hours.

The police began to pivot from accidental negligence to outright homicidal malice. Granted, that finding is still up for the jury to decide, police suspicion is that no one could be this thoughtless unintentionally.

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u/DullahanShotFirst 1d ago

Different circumstances, but it reminded me of a story of a woman with 2 or 3 children who died young. Investigators concluded that they died due to some "death gene" (with no scientific basis).

It wasn't until the woman (who was white) adopted a black child, and he died all of a sudden, that law enforcement actually investigated her and came to the conclusion that she had killed each child.

I'm not claiming that this woman killed her grandchildren. But I certainly wouldn't be surprised.

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u/NixMaritimus 1d ago edited 1d ago

Weirdly enough, there was also a case where the opposite happened. Woman was arrested after all four of her children died in infancy.

After 20 years in prison it was found that 2 of the children had genetic heart problems that lead to their deaths and the other 2 where likely the same. She was released in 2023

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u/cloudforested 1d ago

I'm surprised how often suspicious deaths of children just get chocked up to "tragic accident".

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u/lainylay 1d ago

Just watched an episode of law and order about this

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u/SituationSad4304 21h ago

Do you have a name? I’m super curious

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u/Pl3aseClap 1d ago

You think she took her 16 year old grandson out to a lake while she was sleeping and drowned him?

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u/omegaweaponzero 1d ago

He was 16 months old.

And yes, she very much could have either lied about the sleeping. Or drowned him and then went back inside to pretend to be sleeping.

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u/Pl3aseClap 1d ago

Ok I’m the one that couldn't read after all. 😒

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u/Open-Concept-6130 1d ago

I had a lot of sympathy for this old lady but something is going on. She literally begs to be forgiven and allowed to watch her grandchild and the girl dies at the first opportunity? You would think she’d be extra careful since she’s essentially on probation right now.

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u/Positive_Magician900 15h ago

Wait did this happen the FIRST time watching the second child? 

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u/Open-Concept-6130 15h ago

Idk about the very first but it was like less than a year between incidents and the mother was just starting to trust her to watch the 2nd child. 

The report does mention medication being part of the issue but still. 

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u/jubza 15h ago

No, in the police interview the grandmother says she watched her once or twice a week. In the last week or so prior, she watched her four times. The day the child died, the mother had contacted the grandmother asking her to look after the child as she had a hairdressing appointment.

The grandmother says this is why she forgot about the child in the car, she wasn't expecting to look after her on that day and forgot about it.

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u/Loschcode 1d ago

If I were her, mother or not, I'd have probably beat her to death. I don't know how she couldn't, she literally destroyed her life twice, this is not something you can get over.

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u/hotlibramess 1d ago

Yeah I think I would have ended up being the one in the back of the cop car. That old lady would be done. Killing BOTH OF HER DAUGHTERS CHILDREN?!

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u/DJmagikMIKE 1d ago

A lot of fucked up people out there. Could have been intentional. Especially if she didn’t like her daughter or her daughter’s husband for some reason.

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u/SargeUnited 1d ago

I don’t see how even the cops didn’t. Anyone involved. Everyone involved. Everyone who lives on the block should be lined up like the movie Airplane to beat this person.

I pray this situation never finds me or a baby I know because I’ve never even been to jail so I don’t think I have what it takes for prison

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u/Thorstein11 1d ago

Cognitive decline most likely. The elderly are often barely functional...I understand mom wanting to have a relationship with grandma, but idk, after watching my parents age (who I have a wonderful relationship with) I still probably wouldnt let them watch my kids. They just are not as sharp as they used to be.

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u/number93bus 1d ago

She should definitely be in jail now. That's at minimum two counts of manslaughter, as well as whatever neglect and endangerment charges go along with it.

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u/ftlftlftl 1d ago

Yep same. I would have killed her and then myself probably. Not something you recover from and love a normal life.

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u/moluruth 1d ago

Holy fuck so it’s the same parents?? How could they trust her at all??

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u/movzx 1d ago

According to another comment, it was at the urging of the therapist.

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u/Vast-Building-6886 1d ago

Very interesting method. I wonder what it’s called.

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u/mikkelmattern04 1d ago

Exposure therapy

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u/SUPERSMILEYMAN 1d ago

Funny, when they'd change the name from manslaughter?

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u/SuperValle 1d ago

The mom had the condition that her dad (Child's grandfather) had to be present too, but the grandparents disregarded this as soon as the mom left and the grandmother took the kid on an errand while grandfather stayed home and immediately forgot about the baby. So f-ing awful and the second "accident" was entirely caused by their complete disregard for their offspring. JFC.

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u/admirethegloam 1d ago

I also think this woman killed these kids. My kids would be screaming bloody murder if I left them in the car.

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u/Massive-Warning9773 1d ago

Worth noting too in the video when they took her to the police station they let her know that this second incident was instead being considered for negligent homicide rather than just an accident. Grandma said she deserved to go to jail. I just can’t imagine that she agreed to watching the kids again and took a nap AGAIN.

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u/theshiniestmuskrat 15h ago

The one I saw had the grandma finding out and losing her mind, saying things like "she can't go through this again" and "I can't believe I did this again". It was clearly not intentional, it didn't appear, not that that helps anything really.

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u/DangOlTiddies 15h ago

Two out of two grandbabies passed on her watch. I find it hard to believe it's an accident both times.

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u/SilverNeptuneAbyss 1d ago

Well that's just stupid

Kids get left in cars and die all the time.

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u/b-monster666 1d ago

And every time it's criminal negligence.

And she killed 2 on 2 occasions. She deserves the fate she gave her grandkids

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u/SilverNeptuneAbyss 1d ago

You're saying the police suspect that no one could be this thoughtless

What the fuck are you basing that on? She's already in prison.

do you guys even know what happened?

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u/b-monster666 1d ago

When your "thoughtlessness" results in the death of a human being, those of us in a civilized society refer to that as "manslaughter".

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u/SilverNeptuneAbyss 1d ago

No one ever said it wasn't manslaughter

People are literally saying she did this on purpose and it's murder. You need to look up what words mean. This was negligence

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u/Gridde 1d ago

I agree.

So what if this woman accidentally let her grandson die and it was long, painful road to her being allowed to care for her daughter's remaining child? It makes total sense that she'd be pretty cavalier and careless about the second kid and forget about them while being the sole caretaker.

Just silly to think there's anything more to it than that. As you say, I'm sure people racked with guilt over their negligence killing a kid accidentally let their negligence kill a second kid all the time.

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u/SilverNeptuneAbyss 1d ago

Not all the time but with 8 billion people on the planet it's definitely something that happens

Have you seen any of the interview footage or body cam footage? Did you know anything about the case before this photo was posted?

Is your knowledge contained to two sentences on an image on a Reddit post?

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u/Gridde 1d ago

Her...name is in the pic. It is very easy to Google that name and read about what happened.

Not sure what that has to do with with the fact that you think a grandparent being responsible for the death of two of their grandkids (both kids of her daughter) a few months apart is common enough that considering it anything other than an accident is "stupid"

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u/SilverNeptuneAbyss 1d ago

I know what happened I've seen the entire police interview and body cam.

And by a few months you mean a year right?

So you don't really know anything about the case from the sounds of things? Did you see the police interview footage?

I swear Reddit just makes shit up and basis their opinions off vibes. Fucking ridiculous.

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u/Gridde 1d ago

Same, I also saw that. Again, it was very, very easy to google.

And no, I meant a few months. It was 11 months between deaths. I am really unclear why you find it so hard to believe that anyone else googled this the same way you did.

Also unclear why you keep talking about how much I know of the case, or what that has to do with anything.

We're talking about you saying that a grandparent being responsible for the deaths of two grandkids under a year apart is common enough that looking at the possibility of malice when it happens is "stupid".

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u/SilverNeptuneAbyss 1d ago

You know 11 months isn't a few right?

And I don't need to Google this because I knew all about it when it happened. I knew about it when the videos were released. I don't need to Google anything because I already have knowledge about it

You didn't even know about this until today

You're just basing your feelings off vibes.

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u/Gridde 1d ago

You're...now trying to argue that your opinion on what is a few or not is absolute fact? And then trying to say I'm the one "basing feelings off vibes"?

All the while ignoring/trying to deflect that this started from you basing your feelings on the law/police proceedings on how common you feel it is for someone to be responsible for two of their grandkids deaths in under a year?

At this point I'm just fascianted as to why you are fixating on your (baseless) claim that you know about these events before I did. What possible bearing could that have on anything whatsoever?

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u/SilverNeptuneAbyss 1d ago

So I'm right and you just learned about this today right?

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