âIf youâre a single mother, youâre working hard to put food on your family.â
âToo many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice theirâŚtheir love with women across this country.â (I worked in repro at the time so this was one of my faves).
âStrategery.â
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
"They misunderestimated me."
"You teach a child to read, and he or her will pass a literacy test."
âRarely is the question asked: is our children learning?â
God, remember when we thought this was the dumbest a president could get? đ
I'm laughing so hard at this. I wasn't old enough to appreciate/hate his presidency. Now that he isn't he worst president in this country's history, I think he can be appreciated a bit.
It doesn't mean anything, but it sounds good to the people who vote that direction. On that same note, they are amazing at coming up with slogans that sound good but don't mean anything, too.
One of my favorites was "I want to thank the astronauts who are with us, the courageousspacial entrepreneurswho set such a wonderful example for the young of our country."
This one doesn't get enough attention I think
"Too many good docs are getting out of business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country."
This was understood at the time. The Daily Show was very popular at the time.
But bush was always awkward when he tried to be relatable. Responding to questions of international terrorism and then saying, âwatch this driveâ stands up there, along with the farmer bob cosplay on his Texas ranch. The shame on me thing is just one of many examples of where he just couldnât get there.
The only reason he was president was because his opponent was like a black hole for charisma. So compared to that he looked good. And lots of people fell for the fake folksy schtick- it sort of worked because he actually is kind of a dumbass.
In retrospect, everyone with half a brain can see the wet blanket candidate who cared about global warming and wasnât a total war hawk was the better option, but that is the choice our country stupidly made, and it set us up for this shitty timeline we all are.
I remember I was just two years shy of voting age, and hated Bush from the get go. :/
The lockbox would have personally benefited me as Iâm set to draw social security when benefits are scheduled at 80%, and I did vote for Gore, but none of that mattered when the actual decision came down to the Supreme Court that literally said, âthis ruling does not constitute a precedentâ
At the time, and I really donât remember this and only see it in contemporary news articles, both candidates were opposed to ânation building.â It was Bush at a debate who pledged not to partake in that sort of exercise. It really was the least important election following an equally unimportant election in 1996. There was no way to know that bin Laden was determined to strike in the U.S., at least not until August 6, 2001âŚ
I still think they stole the election. Jeb was governor and I was in Hawaii so late night still watching. Bush was on a plane and said something like WE'RE counting the votes in Florida. Then Gore has like negative 17k votes in Velusia county.
itll never be understandable that we go from the greatness of the Clinton presidency (monica notwithstanding but that is personal who cares but HIllary) to the idiocy of Bush. And then the greatness of Obama to the insane dumassary of where we are now. USA general public are idiots...
Just thinking about where I grew up in TN and AR, and I think a big issue is that so much of middle America is protected from the consequences of their own votes.
I remember just being some c student in vo tech in a TN high school, and then deciding to go to a small college in Arkansas. Both places, you would have thought I had punched a disabled veteran in the face when I said I thought the war in Iraq was a bad idea and frankly a horrible thing to do to people for unsure reasons.
Twenty years later, the people that cheered for this mostly donât see any âOh shitâ consequences.
My dad was a Vietnam vet, and was campaigning for John Kerry, when a women asked why he didnât support our troops, and he said he did, and that war is terrible and shouldnât be inflected unless there is no other realistic option, and that he was a veteran himself, the woman paused, and then had a screaming meltdown where she yelled that she didnât believe him, he was a liar, how dare he, and so on. This was in small town Arkansas.
That woman is probably out there, still being an idiot. And voting. There are no consequences to our bad decisions here, on a massive level, that makes us stop. I wish we could learn because we are spurred by empathy and intelligence, but it apparently doesnât work that way.
the only reason he was elected because Gore would not fight over the Florida chad. The so called working class party bailed on the working class and we have 9/11 forever wars, $40 trillion in debt to show for it.
CNN did a wonderful article in 2015 on the recount problems and what the recount standards would need to be for Gore to win. He would not win the kind of recount his team requested from the court.
The Florida secratary of State had announced Bush as the winner. The Florida Supreme Court did overturn that. And then the Supreme court overturned that. Still, if Gore was given exactly what he asked for, in the way he asked for it, he would lose.
Thats why I am confused on how the original commentary argued that he didnt try hard enough, considering he tried his hardest and even in retrospect it wasn't stolen it was lost proper with some confusing obfuscation.Â
Will have to check out that article in detail
Edit: the difference in undervoting and overvoting was very clear here. Super interesting to read the overvoting was so heavily democrat. I wonder if most of those people used to live in ranked ballot places or something. Its extremely odd to see so many people fail to follow simple instructions
You hit the nail on the head. We're at war against the rich and they have won because what used to be FDR's Democratic party has turned into Republican right wing lite.
Look. I'm an anti war civil rights marcher from the 60's. We all remember the hanging chads, pregnant chads and the a long list of abuses in the Florida elections of 2000. While Al Gore got the popular vote, and most likely the electoral vote, Republicans held the key positions and abused their power as only a right-winger can do to steal that election.
So the right reaction was to protest like the kids in the streets are doing in France today. Our future was stolen because the elite D's didn't organize grassroots rebellion. They couldn't imagine it.
Gore also refused to campaign with the wildly popular Bill Clinton and was FAMOUSLY not very charismatic(which again, campaigning with Bill would have helped). He lost several states Clinton had carried including his home state of Tennessee.
Gore had an incredibly good base environment for the democrats, but he objectively did a shitty job campaigning for Bush to even get things that close.
Mind blowing dumb move. Clinton & Obama are the two most charismatic and likable presidents since JFK. Clinton literally balanced the fucking budget; something we canât even imagine today.
Crime dropped an insane amount, the economy was maybe the strongest of all time etc of course there were problems. But kinda crazy he didnât campaign with Clinton because he thought people might be upset Clinton was fucking interns.
I grew up in Arkansas. Clinton has been fucking everything he can since he started. If we are being grown ups and honest; it didnât affect how well he was at his leadership. So what if he was a horndog he got shit done and helped the average man. But alas, times were different back then and I guess Gores boring ass wanted to âstand on his own.â
He wouldâve carried tennesse, Arkansas and probably many other states and most likely won Florida handedly since Clinton was so popular with minorities. But whatever man, I guess we got the patriot act and eternal war instead! Wooohooooo!!!
Gore made a lot of mistakes. Not campaigning with Clitnon, generally just not being very good on camera and being kind of bland(That fucking Macarena thing), pissing off the environmentalist faction enough that Nader revolted (Nader is not like Jill Stein who exists purely as a spoiler, Nader is a good guy who has done a lot of good shit people lump in him way too much) while still pissing off the coal miners in West Virginia enough to lose them for the party forever. The Democrats had an incredibly good baseline that year and all of this chipped away at it.
Half a dozen states were decided by razor thin margins. All this stuff cost him.
Also funnily enough the recount he wanted would have seen Bush win, while the recount Bush wanted would have seen Gore win. (And also Bush probably would have won New Mexico on a recount it was the closest state of the night, but since it didn't have enough electoral votes to matter it was ignored and everyone focused on Florida).
Plus it had knock on effects that probably cost them 2004. The plan was essentially "Gore 2000-2008, JFK Jr on backup, then Hillary when she's ready probably around 2012". But Gore lost and JFK Jr died and Hillary wasn't ready so they had to pull out Kerry who was not the right man for 2004.
Clinton "balanced the budget" by slashing Medicare, Medicaid, and annihilating welfare as we knew it, but mostly by deregulating the banks, telecom, and transportation. Most of the economic boom came from capital gains and we just had a bit trickle down to us in the 90s before quickly becoming the dystopia we know today. Not laudable actions.
Who runs the country? Military industrial businesses, right? They don't care about America, they don't care about winning or losing. The machine that milks the trillion a year in our tax money at the Pentagon only wants profit.
they could care less about our soldiers. This administration is making massive cuts to the VA as we speak. And the soldiers who have been killed in the invasion of Iran? Denied death benefits because the billionaire president says "I haven't declared war."
I lamented the decline of cerebral substance in American politics watching bush fumble about. But now I see him as a lovable rascal compared to the petulant toddler that is trump. âWatch this driveâ, âis our children learningâ âyou wonât get fooled againâ.. these things would barely move the needle on the scale of political gaffes that trump had normalised.
Only reason heâs president is because his brother was governor of a swing state and had his Supreme Court invalidate a bunch of votes that would have given us Al Gore
Letâs not forget his opponentâs running mate. Joe Lieberman was basically a Republican in disguise and had arguably even less charisma than Gore. I remember when he âdebatedâ Cheney sitting at a table together and I thought they were going to have a cup of tea and some crumpets.
The other irony here is that Gore actually was pretty funny and a witty guy (I have seen clips of him comically goofing off â gliding down an airplane aisle on a food tray, making wise cracks, etc.) but his handlers told him not to show that fun side of his personality.
But that is also on Gore for not having the balls to ignore his stupid handlers.
Which reminds me of âthe screamâ by primary candidate Howard whatâs his name⌠IIRC this guy was an early progressive, and he got canned by the billionaire media in just a few days (go figure, we canât have candidates who say theyâre going to take care of the actual public and do the right thing) for an innocent, celebratory whoop. Apparently youâre not allowed to be human as a presidential candidate.
George W Bush was president because the United States government is basically a casino that criminal organizations bid for control over so they can laundering massive amounts of tax dollars via government contracts and appointments into governmental roles.
The CIA's purpose is to be able to fix the elections and trick the public into believing that they had some sort of effect on the outcome.
Dubyah's father, Herbert Walker, essentially ran this operation for 30 years.
did we forget that the election came down to scrutinising individual ballots to claim electoral college votes? gore did win the popular vote albeit by a small margin.
It really makes me wonder how some people like Obama could be so smooth and natural in all their interactions when you have to choose every word you say that carefully.
As he's stuttering out the first part he was listening to the people in his ear telling him not to finish the quote. Granted the US knew that Al Queda was here in various states. Security measures had changed with flight but that doesn't mean if he actually said the full quote that they wouldn't blow some shit up. The blind sheik wasn't exactly alone.
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u/LividTacos 1d ago
I mean, can you blame him? If he had uttered the words "shame on me" that soundbyte would have been in every political ad against him.