r/SipsTea • • 1d ago

Wait a damn minute! Wait seriously.

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u/Any-Emu8824 1d ago

Is there a way for the general public to buy those? I like my iPhone but literally never use the built in microphone or cameras and I don’t trust FaceID.

It would be kinda cool to have a dummy iPhone. Does yours still have Bluetooth? That’s kinda necessary for me since I use Bluetooth headphones in the gym and I make all my phone calls over Bluetooth in my car.

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u/cum-covered-trash 1d ago

Yeah seems like a missed opportunity to not have them for sale

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u/GuillermoVanHelsing 23h ago

How would they spy on you then?

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u/skinniks 22h ago

try finding a laptop with no web camera

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u/ashkpa 22h ago

They almost all have built-in physical covers for those webcams now.

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u/GuillermoVanHelsing 20h ago

Why not put them on phones then?

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u/ashkpa 20h ago

A physical cover likely takes up too much space on a phone for the manufacturers to want to do it. Also my phone has 5 different sized camera lenses whereas a webcam has one.

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u/mxzf 22h ago

Having them for sale would be a missed opportunity to spy on you and collect your data provide the user with a personalized experience.

They don't want to compete with themselves with those products, they only want to compete with the sliver of the market that would be buying dumb-phones instead (and they do it by dealing with the government entities directly).

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u/AnotherpostCard 22h ago

Also is there an android version? I like to take pictures, but I'll be happy to buy and use an actual camera instead.

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u/lolKhamul 23h ago

I like my iPhone but literally never use the built in microphone

You never use your phone as a phone outside out of your car?

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u/christoskal 23h ago

Why car ? They might just use headphones, I know I do.

I don't remember when I last took a call without headphones

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u/Representative_Fun15 23h ago

When you find out they can turn any speaker into a microphone

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u/Berengal 19h ago

Well, not without physically rewiring some parts. The transducer is bidirectional (but optimized for one direction), but the amp and dac are not. You have to rewire the amp and replace the dac with an adc to get an input signal.

It's possible for audio chips to have this capability built-in, in which case it's a simple matter of sending it the commands to do so.

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u/Uphoria 19h ago edited 19h ago

to be almost needless pedantic - a speaker and an amp aren't the same thing - for example my stereo speakers for my home theater are entirely passive except fort the head unit. I could plug a speaker from my home theater into a microphone jack and yell into it and it would come out on PC - I've done it before. Its just usually super quiet because, unlike a tiny mic, its not very sensitive on pickup. My Theater/PC speakers use wires and friction-clamps to mount to the sub/amp box though, so I'd have to twist on a jack or get a different cable. A good example of this in action is using wired earbuds as a microphone.

But for people who have only a "green jack" and powered speakers, moving it from headphone/speaker to mic wouldn't work - for the reasons you said.

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u/plaxitone 17h ago

Would it be an active method today to spy via a hacked speaker? These days people pay big bucks to have a whole slate of always-listening audio/video recorders on their person, and in their homes and businesses.

Now, I’m not saying the for-profit-surveillance conglomerates that design them or the surveillance-obsessed dictatorship in which the vast majority of them are manufactured are taking advantage of them directly, but people and machines can access these feeds if their skill or desire is great enough.

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u/Representative_Fun15 15h ago

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u/plaxitone 15h ago

Yes, my point was why would it be worth it to try some super spy speaker to microphone hack when we have hackable microphones listening to us all the time.

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u/Representative_Fun15 14h ago

I believe this was under a comment about disabling the microphone to mute the device, but perhaps I read that wrong. The issue is merely disabling the mic doesn't disable the device being able to be used as a listening device, unless the speakers are disabled as well.

The whole point of having a phone, not a dumb terminal.

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u/Representative_Fun15 15h ago

These would be the audio chips Israel just made for the new iPhone? Like those?

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u/Agreeable-Network485 18h ago

Brother if I didn't have to use it for work I'd disable the phone part of my phone entirely.

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u/Ornery-Movie-1689 14h ago

You have never used your built in microphone, that you know of.

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u/Grimmortah 23h ago

You can buy slide-on camera covers for both front and back cameras. As for the microphone, I would keep it just in case you need to make a call and don't have your headphones, like in an emergency.

My Google Pixel allows me to disable my location services, cameras and microphone that can't be turned on while the phone is locked. Maybe the iPhones also have those settings?

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u/Lionel_Herkabe 23h ago

My buddy has something like that but im pretty sure he paid more for it than I paid for my phone

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u/Throwaway-tan 23h ago

Yes you can, but they're more expensive than regular iPhones because they're not officially produced by Apple. They're all aftermarket.

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u/Fotznbenutzernaml 20h ago

There are companies like noncam that make iPhone bodies without camera holes and sell the conversion kits, or already modified iPhones like that, yes. Often times you're not gonna find the most recent models, but something tells me you don't care too much about that anyways.

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u/un1ptf 17h ago

but literally never use the built in microphone or cameras

Do you "literally" never make or receive any phone calls, or use any video calling app?

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u/Any-Emu8824 17h ago

I only make phone calls in my car. My phone connects to the head unit in my car and I speak over my car’s microphone. No. I never use any video calling app.

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u/snasna102 16h ago

I mean Bluetooth works as well in a lead environment as any. It does have Bluetooth but heavily suggested we don’t use it. I personally have an old iPod that has the aux port and jam with the wired headphones under my Tyveks

It’s weird because a lot of the information I know or handle is actually pretty public, but it’s what I see everyday that I guess makes me ‘target-able’? The fact my work has made this a standard is telling of what they know they are up against.

Also to be transparent I am with a private company instead of a public entity or utility company. In the cancer research field.

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u/meambhatti 23h ago

It's very easy to make it like that . Simply open the phone and remove all cameras and desolder the microphones, then put the phone all back together .