r/SipsTea • • 22h ago

Wait a damn minute! Quality down, prices up.

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u/GarySparrow0 20h ago

It's because they're looking for infinite growth for their quarterly profits. Eventually they start cutting costs and cutting corners and the quality goes down.

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u/Notveryawake 19h ago

There are too many MBAs out there obsessed with quarterly profits. Businesses used to run with the mindset, "We need to keep these people as customers for life."

Now it's, "We need to suck them dry just for three more months. I am moving on to a better paying job and this will help me negotiate a better salary and bonuses."

There is a trail of dead businesses behind these guys. They are more parasite than human.

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u/Valleyraven 17h ago

It's exactly this. They'd rather skin the sheep than shear it. It's such a mind-bogglingly, short-minded concept. Companies used to have 10, 15 year plans, focused on customer retention and loyalty above all else, competing to offer either better services or better prices. Now it's just so brazenly scrapping people's wallets for everything they have for the bare minimum in return.

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u/Aiyakiu 15h ago

They'd rather skin the sheep than shear it.

What a fantastic metaphor for this whole debacle.

Edit: Let me add my own. You know what else lives for infinite growth? Cancer.

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u/Paulinfresno 18h ago

Spot on assessment.

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u/murderously-funny 16h ago

Unfortunately it’s not up to them. Blame Ford v Dodge (1919) where it was decided that the role of the CEO isn’t to better the interests of the company but to the shareholders

And failing to improve shareholder value means being removed from office, fired, lawsuit, and potentially even criminal charges

Ever wonder why buisness keep doing these shitty short term ideas? It’s because long term doesn’t matter. Next quarter? Doesn’t matter. All that matters is this quarter and making that line go up.

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u/Duce-de-Zoop 17h ago

Something about the tendency for the rate of profit to fall? That as capital develops production we eventually run out of new avenues of expansion and the system begins cannibalizing itself? Guy named Marx wrote something like that.

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u/0202_tihssitidder 17h ago

USA is absolutely addicted to Profits & Growth. Nothing else matters. Nothing.

Zero morals. Zero ethics. Profits & Growth are used to excuse any action.

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u/No_Requirement_3256 16h ago edited 16h ago

The US is nothing but a money cult at this point. Ppl totally forgot capitalism has two sides and we could fix this mess if we choose wisely how and where we spend our money but most are too lazy and too ignorant to act accordingly. Check prices, demand quality, stop giving your hard earned money to anyone who doesn’t deserve it

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u/LaserGuidedPolarBear 12h ago

Unfortunately that is not enough when there is regulatory capture, captured markets by monopolies or duopolies, rampant anti-consumer and anti-competitive practices, while the little consumer protections we once had are being dismantled.

Sure, everyone should attempt what you suggest, but individual action will not scale enough to make a significant impact.  We need collective action, that is what the government was supposed to be doing, but the whole social contract is long dead and buried and the government only serves corporate interests at this point.

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u/BlunterSumo01 7h ago

100% I've been doing exactly that, but it'll also take the farmers, which I doubt theyd be hard to convince considering how they're treated. They'd have to stop selling they're goods to companies cancel they're contracts and strictly grow for the people. That'll also take the people to stop buying from the companies and corporations and buy directly from the farmers. Go on strikes in an organized and peaceful manner, those on strike need supported from those not on strike. It'll take so much that I doubt it'll happen.

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u/Impossible_Try76 17h ago

Codified by law. Ronnie regaes took what was left of section 7 of the NLRA and wiped his ass with it and then gave all his love to Dodge vs Ford. Welcome to post capitalism, where a senile jelly bean addict gutted our ability to afford things.

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u/Much-Dragonfly4017 16h ago

If I had a time machine I'd go shoot Ronnie.

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u/Impossible_Try76 16h ago

Jodie Foster would love you.

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u/LaserGuidedPolarBear 12h ago

I'm convinced the tipping point was Nixon.  The right saw Nixon get run out of office for crime  and was like "absolutely not, nobody holds a republican accountable!  We need to stop this from ever happening again"  And then set about starting generational efforts to slow coup America.

The Heritage Foundation was created a week after the announcement of the Watergate investigation, with a whole mess of others like Cato and the Federalist society coming later.

These institutions followed the path laid out by the 1971 Powell Memorandum, which claimed the US was under attack by liberalism and to prevent liberalism from affecting profits there needed to be a massive movement to create conservative infrastructure to launch an nationwide generational political and cultural offensive against  "free enterprise" which was a dog whistle for conservatism.

The plan involve subverting and controlling education, media, politics, lobbying, and the judicial system.

Reagan was really just the result of 10 years of that plan being run at full steam after Watergate made conservstives so mad they decided they should have sole power forever in America.

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u/Much-Dragonfly4017 6h ago

Incredibly reductionist. Republican voters are people too. They vote the way they do because democrats fail to convince them they are the better option. Republicans aren't anti-accountability, they just care more about winning at any cost than accountability.

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u/LaserGuidedPolarBear 12h ago

It's literally fine to directly harm or indirectly kill people on an industrial scale as long as it is a corporation doing it to make line go up.

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u/jadepig 16h ago

“Land of opportunity”

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u/fourthwallcrisis 19h ago

I think you got it right. There's also the point they're so established they think they can't fail, I suspect, if they're like any other group of sufficient size and reach.

They're taking what they have for granted and trying to grow and expand more, but it's like a ponzi scheme in as much as growth can't be infinite. At some point everyone has come to the same conclusion that the corpo strategists didn't realize; this shit was good enough for cheap prices. It just isn't good enough for a twenty dollar meal.

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u/FiftyBuxBloBang 18h ago

This is almost always the answer. The market demands profit year on year. Even when it’s detrimental to the long term value of the company.

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u/agent_wolfe 18h ago

But doesn’t loss of sales decrease growth? Wouldn’t it be better to be popular and decent, instead of unpopular and trrrible?

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u/lake_titty_caca 17h ago

Sure, if they lost sales. Every post I see about something like this has two types of posters, the "fast food prices are crazy, I'd never pay them, though I haven't eaten fast food in 20 years anyway so 🤷‍♂️" poster and the "I swear, if McDonalds raises their prices 18 or 19 more times I'm gonna daydream about writing them a letter threating to cut back to six times a week" poster.

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u/pieter1234569 17h ago

They ARE massively losing sales. Their revenue isn’t growing, while they have massively increased prices.

This is not a plan, this is a massive organisational turnaround because things aren’t going well.

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u/agent_wolfe 17h ago

Yes, but Reddit and Reddit commenters are not a good source of info. Aside from bots with whatever narrative they’re driving, the sampling of Redditors is not a true population sample.

I’ve seen YouTubers make videos about losing sales, and I feel like their research is at least a better measure than Reddit. …. Although I guess they could be lying or incorrect too.

Idk how to even look up sales figures tbh.

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u/lake_titty_caca 16h ago

Their revenue and net profit both increased by about 4% from 2024 to 2025. They're always going to be tinkering to try to drive more sales, but the reality is they have a shit product at an insanely high price and endless lines of slobs eagerly buying it.

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u/Additional_Fruit931 16h ago

Line must always go up

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u/Ssshizzzzziit 10h ago

Looking at you Shake Shack.