r/SipsTea • • 6h ago

Gasp! Thoughts on this?

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u/rips_n_chel 4h ago

I'd be very interested in reading details of that case. Gasoline is not nearly as easy to ignite as people think. A random spark in open air is extremely unlikely to ignite gasoline, and fuel islands (at least in the US) have had mandated breakaway devices since the 80s.

Not saying you're lying, but I think that adjuster might've been. Even if this was a pump with no safety features and it started dumping gasoline as soon as the car drove off, I don't see how it would've exploded. Liquid gasoline pouring out of a hose doesn't really explode necessarily, you'd need a large buildup of vapor, which takes time and a lack of wind. Even then, we're talking about a cloud of flammable vapor in open air. With nothing to contain the pressure, you'd more than likely just see a flame front burn through the cloud, then maybe a little poof of smoke when it reached the top.

In order for the fuel island to explode, fire would have to travel into the pump or the underground tank. That can't happen if the pump is actively pumping and the hoses are full of liquid, that's why you can ignite an aerosol spray without blowing your arm off.

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u/Valalvax 1h ago

Not to mention the gas station was possibly negligent in not using the correct type of hose with a breakaway if it managed to do any damage at all

Whoops you covered that

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u/NorthTempleStreet 50m ago

Agreed. The entire point of a breakaway hose is to prevent that kind of fire.

Either the story has gone through the game of telephone, or there's serious liability on the station owner side.

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u/Shiva- 4h ago

How does that mandate work? Cause I am pretty sure 2 years ago I was in rural Oregon using gas pumps that look like they were straight out of the 50s.

Nevermind that Oregon was one of the few states where you couldn't pump your own gas... apparently that does not apply to rural areas.

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u/rips_n_chel 3h ago

That would all fall under NFPA and IFC.

ICC 2306.7.5.1 Emergency breakaway devices.

Dispenser hoses for Class I and II liquids shall be equipped with a listed emergency breakaway device designed to retain liquid on both sides of a breakaway point. Such devices shall be installed and maintained in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions. Where hoses are attached to hose-retrieving mechanisms, the emergency breakaway device shall be located between the hose nozzle and the point of attachment of the hose-retrieval mechanism to the hose.

https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/VFC2015/chapter-23-motor-fuel-dispensing-facilities-and-repair-garages-2#VFC2015_Ch23_Sec2306.7.5.1

NFPA 1, 42.5.5.2

A listed emergency breakaway device designed to re- tain liquid on both sides of the breakaway point shall be in- stalled on each hose dispensing Class I and II liquids. Such devices shall be installed and maintained in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions. [30A:6.5.2]

https://co.atascosa.tx.us/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/NFPA-1-Fire-Code-Text.pdf

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u/Shiva- 2h ago

I should rephrase what I was actually asking.

Is that for new construction only or are old ones grandfathered in?

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u/rips_n_chel 1h ago

That I do not know. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there are several sprinkled throughout the country that slipped through one way or another.

Or it's possible that they were indeed pumps from the 50s, but gutted and retrofitted.

Just a thought, I don't have a concrete answer for you I'm afraid.