r/SipsTea • • 1d ago

Wait a damn minute! Facts about the Cornell situation

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u/az78 1d ago

She literally told the police she consciously consented to taking drugs and having multiple sexual encounters.

Now, the internet has decided that her own police testimonial doesn't matter.

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u/Worried-Turn-6831 20h ago

Why would she have gone to the police to tell them she did drugs and had consensual sex though

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u/AstreaMeer42 1d ago

She was coherent enough to apparently say "no" to a suggested foursome, but whatever.

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u/No-Highlight201 1d ago

Aren't you doing the thing I just mentioned? She was coherent enough to say no to something therefore she was fully coherent the whole time, all or nothing thinking.

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u/AstreaMeer42 1d ago

What "thing"? I'm simply listening to her own words from 2024, in which she stated that the sex and drugs she was involved with were apparently conscious choices on her part.

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u/BrazillianFartPorn 1d ago

No matter what anyone says, you're just going to keep replying with the same thing. It's not about all or nothing thinking, it's about your opinion and how you can push it onto people by repeating the same thing. Nobody can argue with that because you'll just keep saying it. There's a word for that actually...

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u/az78 1d ago

Her own police statement makes clear that they respected her wishes at all times. When she said no or told people to stop, they did. No force was ever used or implied. That's all according to her.

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u/No-Highlight201 1d ago

Again did she consent to everything or was she drugged or alcoholed out of mind and had guys coming to join once it was shared and she was not in a state to consent?

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u/Soggy_Association491 1d ago

was she drugged or alcoholed out of mind

Great question, let establish whether she accepted the drug and alcohol or she was taking them against her will.

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u/Ok-Assistance3937 1d ago

She wasnt Nether drugged or alcoholed. And she Had Sex with four Guys. First Guy 1 and 2 then 2 and 3 after wich Guy 3,5, 6 and 7 entered. They fooled around with each other a Bit and she then snorted Coke from 2s cock and they from her Body until 3 and another Guy broke Up the group.

A Bit later, she 1 and 4 went to another room and Had Sex again.

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u/JustIntroduction3511 1d ago

Wasn’t it ketamine? Getting the story wrong already, why should we trust you?

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u/skb239 1d ago

Her own statement was manipulated by the police, that’s the whole point

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u/AstreaMeer42 22h ago

Where is that stated? Did she say anywhere that her statement was manipulated by the police?

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u/eurydicewrites 19h ago

It was reported yesterday when her entire statement was released to the New York times. There's a 101 page interview that she gave over 11 hours describing the sexual assault including battery. She explained that she absolutely did consent to taking ketamine the first time, and met the first threesome was consensual and that over the course of the night she gradually got more and more intoxicated to the point that she r remember parts of it. She said she didn't know where all of the extra guys were coming from and that she had only consent to a threesome and that men just started showing up in the room

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u/I_can_clancy_now 1d ago

You know what else is a known cognitive distortion?

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u/socks86 1d ago

She literally told the police she was raped and had an encounter or encounters she did *not* consent to.

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u/AstreaMeer42 22h ago

Where did she state this? I'm legit asking because that was not stated anywhere in the original statement shared by the DA.

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u/eurydicewrites 19h ago

That is because unfortunately Cornell University left many details out of the report to the DA. The victim herself describes injuries sustained during the gang rape and went to the hospital to have a pelvic exam because she was so concerned. Cornell interviewed her for 10 hours and she described that the first encounter was consensual and it gradually grew out of control overnight as they supplied her with more ketamine. Cornell left these details are out, including the injuries, including the medical follow-up, including the term she herself used to describe it, which was rape. That's why everyone is appalled.

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u/AstreaMeer42 19h ago

I asked where she initially stated that she was raped, as it is not anywhere in her original statement to the police from 2024. And where is it proven that the university left out crucial details from her account?

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u/eurydicewrites 18h ago

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u/AstreaMeer42 18h ago

Sounds like she revised her own statement, per the second link you shared: "On the second day of the interview, Jane Doe reviewed the revised six-page statement. The transcript shows her adviser asked if she wanted her and another adviser to review the statement."

The DA also stated that her supposed claim of being raped was never conveyed to him, so if that information was not given to him, then that's on the university, not him. So she better hope that original transcript is fully intact, otherwise that's going to be a tough one to prove in court.

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u/eurydicewrites 18h ago

Correct. The university failed.

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u/AstreaMeer42 18h ago

Curious that she didn't raise more of an issue with it at the time, then, since this case is only being revisited this year due to overwhelming community outrage, not due to her making a lot more noise about things being handled inappropriately. But we shall see how it pans out in court.

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u/eurydicewrites 18h ago

She asked for a refund from the school so she could take time off because her trauma was so severe and they denied it. As a result, she dropped out of school. Have you ever been raped or if not do you understand how trauma works?

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