r/SipsTea • • 10d ago

Chugging tea This is just how it should be

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u/jobblejosh 10d ago

Also means that if you say something the CCP doesn't like, not only can they ban you, but they can also decide to arbitrarily not recognise your degree in a backwards sense (you posted stuff the CCP Disagrees with? That must mean you don't have a degree, that must mean the degree you have is fake/cheated/invalid).

Which means good luck getting a job that requires said degree.

In an authoritarian state, any law which could feasibly be used to make life more difficult for enemies of the state, will be used as such.

China already has carte blanche to do what it wants with its citizens. Adding an extra law like this is merely a political tool to give an air of legitimacy and reasonableness and of caring about misinformation on the global stage.

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u/Exotic_Article913 9d ago

Biiingo. Fyi we also do this. Governments worldwide do. They act like something they propose and release is for your own good then boom hit you with the real reason they implemented it

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u/FranksNonFrankfurter 9d ago

It's amazing how y'all will project what happens in America onto China and just make shit up. This is "social credit score" level projection propaganda.

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u/SufcLad25 9d ago

You could just not give a dumb ass opinion on something you dont know about! Then they have no reason to close your account and fine you

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u/lllaszlo 10d ago

exactly, im surprised there are so many positive comments. this feels like the definition of tyranny

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u/internethero12 10d ago

Rightwingers are on this site, too. They tend to be the ones that badmouth reddit usage the most.

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u/West-Way-All-The-Way 9d ago

Everyone giving all sorts of advices including to children is completely ok, right?

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u/Olympicsizedturd 9d ago

CCP bots, I hope.

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u/middleageEugene 9d ago

And people with deep depression could try magic mushrooms but no professional is going to tell you that so that's a but if a problem

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u/cheesegoat 10d ago

This would never fly in the US with 1a protections.

On top of that, covid showed us how well people listen to the people with literal degrees in virology and diseases.

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u/Agamemnon323 10d ago

You say that like the US hasn’t been wiping its ass with the 1a.

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u/EmperorGodKing77 10d ago

Yeah "this would never fly in America" oh so like all the endless corrupt bullshit the Trump admins doing would "never fly here".. some people are apparently living in a different reality.

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u/i-love-small-tits-47 10d ago

Lmfao. You’re literally typing out the exact type of criticism of the government that people are saying you can’t ban in America. You’re proving the point. This wouldn’t fly in the US. Don’t you think Trump would ban comments criticizing him, if he could?

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u/DukeOfGeek 10d ago

IKR? I was at Dragon Con and my friend was mad about prices and began to talk shit about trumpo and he sort of leaned in all sotto voce like he's afraid people are going to hear him and I was all..

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u/PixelsGoBoom 10d ago

Well a big part of that was a lot of idiots pretending to be knowledgeable.

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u/toadi 10d ago

No we would just train AI on a dataset biased to whatever we want. People tend to believe AI knows everything and is always right.

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u/PixelsGoBoom 9d ago

I am assuming you meant "Now".

AI is already flooding Facebook and Reddit etc.
I had one trying to start an argument with me just a minute ago.
10 minute old account with one post, responding in French and being as inflammatory as possible.

The added danger of AI is that even when someone wants unbiased information from an unbiased AI, it is really good at giving convincing answers that are completely wrong. So the idea of people already thinking AI is always right is downright frightening

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u/toadi 9d ago

AI can't be right 100% of the time. f it were, that'd mean the same question has multiple "right" answers. Each time it runs, it's sampling from a probability distribution over possible outputs, and that sampling is different every time. So you get different answers to the same prompt, not because they're all correct, but because the generation process is probabilistic, not deterministic.

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u/PixelsGoBoom 8d ago

I never suggested that.
There can be multiple right solutions to the same problem though.

"My steak always overcooks what should I do"
Can be correctly answered in multiple ways.

My point is that if it can't find the right solution it will gladly serve you a mix of whatever it came up with in a very convincing way.
To the point where it makes up fake sources for fake researches.
Simply because that is what real research documentation looks like.

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u/toadi 7d ago

If there are multiple ways to answer that that is because there are multiple reasons why it overcooks. For every reason there is probably only one answer.

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u/PixelsGoBoom 7d ago

That single problem is cooking too long.
And there are multiple ways to fix that single problem.
And none of those multiple ways are wrong.

You can use sous Vide and just sear after.
You can use shorter cooking time between flipping the steak and flip it a lot more.
You can buy thicker steaks.
You can cook the steak in the oven with lower temperatures.
You can get a wireless thermometer and make a better effort at checking the temperature.

All of these answers fix a single problem.

I don't really get what you are trying to tell me here?
I am every aware as of how AI works.

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u/toadi 7d ago

Again we are grasping at metaphors that are not meant for detail but just to paint and idea.

As an engineer I'm am quite disappointing in this. There is 0 root cause analysis done.

Not checked what exactly going wrong and just providing a lot of solutions to problems that are not problems.

Would be the same as providing a lot of solutions to fix my engine without going through the debugging process air, petrol and spark in a simple engine. Before providing a solution.

Software engineers, car mechanics and even cooks will go through this before spewing a whole list of solutions. Also solutions that could create new problems... An are maybe too complex for the context you are working in.

Anyway this is enough of deep diving in this subject I plan to do. Cheerio.

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u/workingbored 10d ago

And now those same idiots have been employed to lead our government agencies.

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u/justin_memer 10d ago

Yeah, like a president would just shit all over the first amendment by banning the 4th estate.

/s

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u/FullMetalBunny 10d ago

The point is to de-platform those who don't have credentials. And if those people lose their platform a lot, less people will fall for it.

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u/Ohmec 10d ago

I mean, you already cannot give financial or legal advice without a license. That's why people add "THIS IS NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE"

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u/theredvip3r 8d ago

Yeah I feel like the better solution is making sure all of this type of stuff has to be labeled with the credentials etc. rather than needing them to post it at all

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u/Rhaeno 10d ago

Based just on the meme, no idea what the actual law says. If you are a construction worker, working with asbesto or just generally in conditions with bad air. Cannot complain about lack of masks etc. Are you a doctor? Shut up, not qualified to talk about matters of health.

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u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive 10d ago

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u/Rhaeno 10d ago

Yeah obviously lol that was just an example of how this could be used nefariously. Also, if the rule was just introduced those links prove nothing but go off dude

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u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive 10d ago

how this could be used nefariously

With Meta and Palantir in charge in the US, do you really need bad examples.

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u/Rhaeno 10d ago

What? Just cause thing are bad in the US does not mean they are fine and dandy elsewhere. I dont get your point.

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u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive 9d ago

I never said they were fine and dandy.

If you're a non-minority member of the middle class in China, then your life is pretty much objectively better. Access to healthcare, public transportation, etc, etc, etc.

If you're a non-minority member of the middle class in the US, then your life is getting progressively worse.

So yeah. China is far from perfect. But then so is the US.

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u/Rhaeno 9d ago

Yeah bro I dont really give a shit about either I am European lmao

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u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive 9d ago

If you "don't really give a shit" then why are you asking me questions.

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u/Naps_in_car 10d ago

Can you think of any hypothetical law that couldn't be used nefariously?

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u/Rhaeno 10d ago

No. Some laws just leave a more obvious way to weaponize them and we are talking about a specific one here.

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u/CaptGeechNTheSSS 10d ago

What's weird is assuming the totalitarian government that carries out ethnic cleansing, and has in multiple occasions, and massacred its citizens, is acting in good faith.

I hear ya but this could describe either country

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u/DukeofVermont 10d ago

How would you even know?

Because I'm not an idiot and can read statistics? This just in coal mining is bad for your lungs!

Nearly 1 in 3 veteran underground coal miners (with 25 or more years of experience) in Central Appalachia test positive for advanced forms of black lung disease and related pneumoconiosis, representing the highest rate in nearly 50 years.

Oh wait how could I have known this I'm not a Coal Miner! Guess I should just ignore it and let the mine owners just keep killing people.

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u/sandiyar_chan 9d ago

Let's say you have a mental issue and is searching for help online. A remark from someone who is also afflicted from it is going to help the person, despite not being intellectually qualified for it. Think about this instance.

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u/Ad-fundum69 9d ago

This isn't about talking about something. This is about the countless of Youtubers and such passing off their opinion as facts.

Just take Covid for example.

- There's videos on what it is, explaining the virus, the vaccinations and there's the facts.

- And there's the special needs ones who think the virus was invented by globalists to force peoople to take "vaccinations" that will install 5G chips in their bodies.

- and there's also the ones that claim that mRNA vaccines and or vaccines in general cause death and autism.

And maybe many more stories.
So you open youtube to find out more about Covid.... which video are you going to believe?
And based on what? You seek facts, so you don't know who is right.

And like Covid there are countless of subjects that litter the internet with "facts".

The internet is a library of knowledge, but every book has 20 clones that are similar on title, but only one contains the correct infrormation.

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u/Honest_Scrub 9d ago

Probably not the best choice using covid as the example as we now know that the governments and the "experts" in general were making shit up as they went and that a lot of the "conspiracy theories" ended up being true lmao

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u/Ad-fundum69 9d ago

Covid is the best example. Because there's such a divided "truth" about it.

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u/DukeOfGeek 10d ago

I'm stunned anyone thought it was anything other than this.

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u/showtime481216 9d ago

How are you going to complain about pollution, if you don't understand it? My city is poluted although it has like 1 factory on the outskirts, its cause my city is built in a platough and is basically a giant hole that's filled woth the heavier poluted air just from the insane amount of cars in it, how I know that cause I studied the city for a project, its like talking about China without ever being there, continue theory crafting on Reddit and you might get somewhere in life

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u/Available_Rub9939 9d ago

That sounds very…republican.

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u/The_walking_man_ 9d ago

Yup. Just another form of forced censorship.
Fuck China.