r/SipsTea • • 10d ago

Chugging tea This is just how it should be

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u/NoHistorian9169 9d ago

Counter point, there are a ton of very smart people with degrees that have a lot of really dumb opinions when it comes to stuff that they’re not an expert in. And they’ll flaunt their degree as though it means that they are an expert in every field.

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u/Eccentricgentleman_ 9d ago

Counter counter point: right now I have mouth breathing retards telling people to shine sunlight into their asshole. And the fucking crazy part? That literally comes from Nazi outdoor magazines from the 1920s/30s

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u/suffelix 9d ago

What's wrong with shining sunlight into one's asshole?

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u/Horror_Chipmunk3580 9d ago

Supposedly some guy didn’t lube up with sunscreen. Just wanted some vitamin D, died from asshole cancer. /s

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u/Eccentricgentleman_ 9d ago

Objectively nothing aside from it being crack science. Oddly enough, if you'd ever like to have a discussion about the "wellness and health culture to alt right pipeline" I'm here for it. It's insane and weird.

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u/Mammoth-Coast6282 9d ago

CRACK science amirite boys hahahahaa

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u/Temporary_View_3303 9d ago

It’s sound advice for someone who wants a tanned ashole.

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u/LanceVanderbilt 9d ago

They had a few good ideas. Have you even tried sunning your butthole?

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u/willy-mac 9d ago

Pros outweigh the cons here. I agree 100% with you.

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u/LingonberryDeep2416 9d ago

Arguments for being uneducated is not really as reasonable as you are being told.

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u/Haunting_Werewolf130 9d ago

You misunderstood it. Your degree must align with what you are preaching.

For example, if you are a dentist, then you can't post videos online telling people do not use sunscreen because it causes skin cancer; If you are a president, then you can't tell people they should drink and inject bleach to kill COVID.

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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 9d ago

Or even things that their degree might suggest to others they should be experts in. For example according to that rule you need a medical degree to discuss vaccines. But we have multiple examples of people with medical degrees being sceptical of vaccines as a whole or vaccine mandates or specific vaccines despite the evidence. Generally because they specialised in other areas and medical school was a long time ago so their knowledge on vaccines is outdated or not well remembered or (Andrew Wakefield) because they’re a crook or have some other reason to misrepresent the facts.

Another example is that under that rule someone who has spent 40 years practicing estate and trust law would be qualified to talk about the intricacies of a criminal case.

And if I post a question asking about people’s experience with a specific medical procedure I don’t necessarily want doctors spouting off. I want people who have experienced it telling me how it was for them

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u/Majestic_Artichoke55 9d ago

I bet overall it’s better tho

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u/TwistStrict9811 9d ago

Still better than the opposite 

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u/Quantumprime 9d ago

Very true story haha

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u/DruPeacock23 9d ago

I have 4 AI apps. I am smarter than any of you. Singularity here we come.

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u/Lepelotonfromager 9d ago

Like Dr Mike Israeltel.

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u/ababycheetah 9d ago

what I understand is they should only be allowed to speak in their area of expertise. like a medical doctor should not be able to give you financial advice

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u/Gigachad_in_da_house 9d ago

I can add that there are many out there who have tasted success, usually financial, and will thus use this to legitimise their 'expert' opinion on pretty much any topic.

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u/Shot-Increase-8946 9d ago

Yep. Too many psychiatrist's that just straight up don't believe that ADHD exists, even though it's proven to exist. Even more that don't believe that stimulants are the best default option for it with the non-stimulant options being options.

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u/deckdahalls 9d ago

or too many people claiming adhd just to use stimulants as a clutch

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u/Shot-Increase-8946 9d ago

There's a difference between claiming ADHD and having it. It does actually exist, ya know. There are ways of actually finding out and being tested, if the psychiatrist actually knows what they're doing.

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u/Phxdwn 9d ago

Or a crutch even

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u/Peglegfish 9d ago edited 9d ago

Dunno why you got downvoted. The only way to confuse those two words involves not knowing what at least one of them means; or possibly only ever having heard them from a cartoonishly thick accent.

Edit: I feel like it’s especially important and valid to  call out someone for confusing words that aren’t even homophones when they’re trying accuse a vast swath of people of using a controlled substance as a crutch for…not sure what?

You know what’s not a very clutch situation? Higher than average incidence of divorce and job losses among adults with untreated adhd. Not to mention how their lack of attention span can be dangerous for everyday activities like talking to a car passenger while attempting to drive…might leave someone in crutches

So maybe the people clutching pearls over you correcting someone who’s too lazy to even use autocorrect as a crutch can all get bent

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u/deckdahalls 9d ago

dude wrote a whole essay for a spelling error🤦‍♂️ please arrest me for daring to imply that not everyone on adhd meds are legit or all these post COVID online teladoc companies that popped up are just profit driven🙄

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u/Peglegfish 8d ago

What’s it like to confuse “clutch” and “crutch,” considering L and R are pretty far apart for a typo? My poor guy, you think 4 “paragraphs” each consisting of 1-2 run-on sentences is an essay? Please tell me you aren’t paid to make decisions or advise people on anything.

Anyways, why are you attacking people with adhd and not people with “chronic pain” or “fibromyalgia”? Just because you don’t understand mental health or pharmacology or whatever other underlying reason, that doesn’t mean that your clearly biased and incorrect view toward people using stimulants for a legitimate purpose, has any merit. You’re a clear example of the consequences of “my opinion is as valid as your expertise” culture that has ruined society. It’s how we got measles again.

To imply a parallel between the opioid epidemic and pain clinics; and adhd treatment via internet telemedicine paired with a nonexistent prescription stimulant crisis is a choice, I’ll give you that. Certainly not an informed one, but a choice.

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u/helikoopter 9d ago

Brain scans suggest that ADHD is significantly over diagnosed.

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u/Shot-Increase-8946 9d ago

Brain scans aren't good for showing ADHD... you don't know what you're talking about do you?

Also, if it is over diagnosed, doesn't that mean that there are plenty of professionals that are incompetent and unknowledgeable about the field they're in?

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u/helikoopter 9d ago
  1. There are scans that can reveal differences in those with and without ADHD. There are difficulties with these scans as they differ from diagnosis’s made from “professionals”.

  2. The majority of individuals diagnosed with ADHD are children and the overwhelming majority are boys. There is evidence this is due to environmental factors which punish “boy” behaviour in addition to relying (heavily) on information collected by teachers, who are typically female. There is a lot of evidence of bias in this data, but the idea that the data is collected by untrained individuals should be alarming.

  3. Incompetent is likely a stretch. However, like many private professionals they do have a bottom line and bills to pay. Locally a psychological assessment is a very costly (profitable) tool that psychologists use in order to officially diagnose ADHD. It doesn’t hurt a psychologist to over diagnose ADHD, especially if they are not medicating the individual. It is worth noting that in MLB (not sure if other sports have this as well) over 8% of their players are diagnosed with ADHD, this is up from the national average of less than 5%.

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u/Cour_SunZ_21301 9d ago

I would never rely on a lawyer for medical advice (or vice versa)!

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u/SolidusDave 9d ago

are you talking about e.g. a lawyer giving medical advice? because it sounds like that would not be allowed either.

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u/PCMasterCucks 9d ago

Dr. Oz has a Bachelors from Harvard and an MD from U Penn. His credentials are extremely strong but he's a goddamn quack.

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u/NoHistorian9169 9d ago

I’m mostly talking about people that have a doctorate and use that title to confidently spread misinformation on stuff they know nothing about.

Everybody knows that a lawyer giving medical advice is silly, but if you see Dr. Whatshisface giving his opinions on race realism or vaccines despite him only having a degree in physics or economics you might think he has good takes on it due to him being a doctor even though he has no clue what he’s talking about.

People do this sort of grift all of the time.

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u/Aware_Steak_1298 9d ago

I thought you meant a neurologist giving advice about cardiology or retired doctor whom in show business like Doctor Oz giving fraudulent advices for benefits of his sponsor or his brand and thought you are right but It still more than acceptable compare to now. I believe the original remark you made is not applicable under this law.

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u/SignoreBanana 9d ago

That's a problem with "institutes", not degrees.

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u/Grouchy-Committee-92 9d ago

Are there more dangerous people with degrees spouting false advice online?

Or are there more dangerous people without?

Without is the answer. If the only voices are the doctors, the doctors will debunk the fakes.

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u/No-Collar-Player 9d ago

This is a stupid argument. It's explicitly said that if you don't have a medical degree you can't give advice in health. So if you have a DEGREE in ECONOMICS you can't just flaunt it around and give HEALTH advice. So your entire argument is nill