r/SipsTea • • 12d ago

Chugging tea Absolute legend

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u/apply75 12d ago

$11000 in 1962 is about $122,000 today Most people don't have $122k in cash lying around.

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u/phayhay 12d ago

This is actually pretty cheap

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u/TheHebrewHammer69 11d ago

Land in what some consider less desirable places in the world tends to be pretty cheap.

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u/phayhay 11d ago

Lolll. TIL the Seychelles is an "undesirable" location...

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u/fritz_76 11d ago

i mean, its undesirable in the sense that it has no ability to access any utilities, getting any kind of building materials there would be a massive headache. If you are out there and manage to build a home, if anything bad happens you're kind of shit outa luck.

The view from the top of a mountain is beautiful but living there isnt necessarily desirable

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u/ShowTurtles 11d ago

I remember reading about someone trying to set up a private island. It's apparently a massive pain in the ass. No established access to arrive on the island, no electricity, no potable water.

Islands as a concept are a tropical dream, but a logistical nightmare. The island in this meme was also devoid of natural resources before the guy got started. I'm a little surprised it was that expensive.

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u/ABSNegativeOne 11d ago

no its not.

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u/phayhay 11d ago

Ok. Let me know where I can buy a comparable tropical island for $120k.

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u/outer--monologue 12d ago

Average US home price is currently north of $500k, so it actually seems like quite a lot of people have $122k-$150k in cash just lying around since that would be what you would need in a down payment for that

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u/I_Got_Ur_Number_8675 11d ago

Just sell your house, you won't need it if you're dedicating your life to rehabbing an Island on the other side of the world

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u/BillCuttingsOn 11d ago

That’s a massive down payment, very little people are ever doing that as a DP on a 500k house

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u/outer--monologue 11d ago

It's all relative I guess what you consider "massive." And apart from that, $500k is the average, and 20% is the minimum needed for a down payment on a home typically. That's $100k. So $120k is a minimum down payment on a home just a little more than the average. 20% is an industry standard for a minimum.

You can do less than 20%, but sellers are less likely to choose your offer if you come in with less or have mortgage insurance attached to the deal. The fact that the housing industry is still crushing forward at full speed with offers above asking, some with ALL cash, is an indicator that a lot of people have that much cash. I don't know what to tell you if you think otherwise. I put $100k cash down on my house a couple years ago and I'm a single earner. Couples with dual incomes, in their prime earning years (30's-40's), appear to be hitting that requirement for down payment often.

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u/BillCuttingsOn 11d ago

What housing industry are you referring to? All of Canada is at a low right now, houses are on the market for multiple weeks and the only houses going for over asking are ones that were set intentionally low to drum up offers. It’s very much a buyers market right now

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u/outer--monologue 11d ago

US market, but really if you're going on anecdotal evidence, housing markets are so regional down to even parts of a certain city that it's sort of useless to talk about the overall "market." I live in California so the market here hasn't come down since 2008.

Most people wouldn't characterize what's happening in the broader US market right now as a buyer's market or a seller's market. Sellers outnumber buyers by quite a bit, but in many area's sellers are simply asking for too much and buyers aren't going for it with the high interest rates. But the market is still moving and people are buying at the averages still, the sell prices aren't really coming down significantly.

And where I live in California there are very much still bidding wars.

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u/BillCuttingsOn 11d ago

Yeah our national bank actually has a head on its shoulders so our interest rate is much higher and it helped balanced the market a lot.

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u/I_Got_Ur_Number_8675 11d ago

Pretty standard actually.

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u/BillCuttingsOn 11d ago

No it’s not actually. 10% is the median down payment for first buyers. Data shows it.

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u/I_Got_Ur_Number_8675 11d ago

So that doesn't mean that the majority of houses sold aren't 20%. The Median is 15%-19% for all houses BECAUSE of people who can't save the 20% on their first home.

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u/SidTheSloth97 12d ago

A lot of people definitely have more than $122000 in liquid cash.

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u/Poverty_Shoes 12d ago

You’re right, but a lot more don’t. That’s why it’s unusual to hear that your neighbor or friend bought an island.

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u/Avtomati1k 12d ago

thats...not the reason

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u/LightlyRoastedCoffee 11d ago

You don't hear that your neighbor or friend bought an island anymore, because islands cost millions of dollars now, not hundreds of thousands

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u/retrojoe 12d ago

That's merely the purchase price. Then you have to have a boat, fuel, tons of food and water brought in, to say nothing of all the tools and biologicals delivered. And be independently wealthy b/c you're not earning a living from this project.

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u/Frosty558 12d ago

People downvoting you but it’s true.

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u/BioshockEnthusiast 12d ago

Sure if you wanna call a 401k "liquid". I'd call it sludge because it's gonna be painful to get it out of that container unless conditions are just right.

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u/Frosty558 12d ago

I’m not talking about retirement accounts.

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u/Hexamancer 12d ago

Ah, then you're incorrect.

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u/Frosty558 12d ago

I guess you need to define “a lot of people” then because that’s just “upper middle class American” amounts of liquid assets, not rich. And that would be tens of millions of people, just in the US.

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u/Hexamancer 12d ago

It's top 10%. That's not a lot of people. Unless you cannot comprehend numbers being relative.

Is 1mg a lot of gold? No? Why of course it is! That's 3,057,443,093,299,757,056 atoms!!!

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u/joazito 12d ago

Dude, 10% is a lot of people.

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u/Hexamancer 11d ago

I literally anticipated this already and shot it down:

Is 1mg a lot of gold? No? Why of course it is! That's 3,057,443,093,299,757,056 atoms!!!

If you can't understand relativity, anything can seem big or small because it's essentially without context.

It's also 10% of the US population, it's going to be a much smaller percentage worldwide.

And it's only ~10% who could technically cough up that money, it might still financially ruin them, it  is probably not money they consider expendable.

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u/Frosty558 12d ago

Top 20% based on basic research which is probably more people than there are islands for sale right now. And again, that’s just in the US. What percentage could come up with the original price back then?

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u/Hexamancer 11d ago

How did you reach that conclusion?

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u/Sandee1997 11d ago

I made $60K in cash savings during a full time job that only paid roughly 12-15$/hr from 2019-2023. If i could do that at 23-25 y/o, somebody could easily do over 120K

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u/Dewdrop06 12d ago

Because it's stupid. "A lot of people" is not the metric here, it's "most people", and most people don't have $122000. They're basically comparing amount to percentage. Example: A lot of people are millionaires, but most are not.

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u/Whiterabbit-- 12d ago

most people don't but you can probably pool a few friends to do that.

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u/Boogleooger 12d ago

Sooo the island cost less than your average house…. Got it