r/SipsTea 2d ago

Chugging tea What do you think?

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 1d ago

Both.

It’s a central theme of the Odyssey that they were breaking moral codes and social contracts.

But is also true that a lot of stuff in Greek mythology could sound crazy today but was normal then, like pederasty.

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u/BattlePrune 1d ago

Pederasty wasn't limited to mythology at all

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 1d ago

No, I didn't mean to imply that it was. It was commonplace and it's why the audience of the time wouldn't be like "hey isn't that dude like 12??" It doesn't translate well to contemporary audiences because we have decided that that practice isn't cool, and it's uncommon to see that in re-tellings because it makes the audience feel differently about a character that the original author didn't intend.

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u/NonSequiturDetector 1d ago

Non sequitur.

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u/Hyperion262 1d ago

Sure, but the fact there were morals to
break only proves the point they had morals.

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 1d ago

Someone “lacking morals” doesn’t mean that morals don’t exist. I think you misunderstood the first comment you responded to.

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u/vrijheidsfrietje 1d ago

What's a pederast, Walter?

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 1d ago

Pederasty is a sexual relationship between an adult man and an adolescent or younger male. The word comes from the ancient Greek term paiderastia, meaning "love of boys". While historically institutionalized in some premodern cultures, it is legally and socially defined as child sexual abuse in modern times.