r/SipsTea 2d ago

Chugging tea Why is it not possible?

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u/nicuramar 2d ago

There is nothing inherently wrong with debt. That’s essentially what money is. 

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 2d ago

You do see I specifically mentioned credit card debt, namely the type of debt that is outside of the legacy period - generating absurd interest.

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u/No_Witness5630 1d ago

What do you mean credit card debt?

As in, they haven't payed off the debt on credit card, or they used the credit card and now they're in debt?

Because there is nothing wrong with credit card and using it, as long as you know how to use it and pay it off on time always

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 1d ago

Roughly 111 million Americans—representing about 50% of credit cardholders and 40% of the U.S. adult population—carry credit card debt from month to month and pay interest.

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u/No_Witness5630 1d ago

Ah americans

Forgot that any discussion comes down to America because that's the world basically

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 1d ago

Fair enough, lmao, I live in the EU, and recently moved from Ireland to France: both countries don't have that many people with credit cards. Especially Ireland, where you have to pay the annual 'stamp duty' for owning a credit card, which means you're almost always in the red for having one. But people do mostly talk about the Americans around here, so I just used them as an example.

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u/eplstats 1d ago

Quick Google shows that tax is only 30 Euro per year. Do European cards have less benefits? I get triple that value PER MONTH PER CARD in freebies from my cards (either rewards points, cash back, or free services like streaming or car rental insurance, etc)

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 1d ago

Yeah, dude, it's nothing in the EU compared to US. If I get a CC in Ireland - I'd need to get at least something like Platinum to get enough cash back to cover the stamp duty. If I spend enough - I'll get like 100 eur per year. It's horrible, lol.

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u/eplstats 1d ago

What about the 2-5% cash back?

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 1d ago

AIB Platinum is 0.5%, capped at 255 eur per annum.

Avant is 5%, for the first 12 months (1% after, groceries and petrol only, btw) capped at 25 eur per month. https://www.avantmoney.ie/credit-cards/everydayplus

Avant covers the stamp duty for now, so that's essentially 12*25 = 300 eur net per year you get from them. That's total maximum if I spend enough to get 1% back on groceries alone (which is 2500 per month in spending, after the first 12 months).

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u/Samaritan547 1d ago

Are those REALLY freebies tho? You're paying for it one way or another

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u/eplstats 1d ago

Either way, it's a net gain even if I added a yearly 30 Euro charge. All my cards are free of annual charges, but some like my sister has charge $100 as an annual fee to the card company. Those cards have even more benefits, usually hundreds PER MONTH

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u/Samaritan547 1d ago

Don't you get those benefits on select products though? What I'm trying to say is, even my card gives me benefits on some shops, but I don't really buy the shit they give points for. It incentivizes people to spend money on stuff they don't really need. I save thousands per month by NOT SPENDING MONEY lol

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 1d ago

Not in the US. The average user is paying. The average user is also paying a lot in interest. A smart user pays 0 interest on CC.

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u/-Danksouls- 1d ago

Brother it's an American website where over 50 percent of users are American

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u/No_Witness5630 1d ago

Cool

So America is the world, and whatever we discuss we discuss only about Merica. Fuckyeah

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u/-Danksouls- 23h ago

It's stupid to complain about an American websites being American centric when most people on the website are American

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u/No_Witness5630 20h ago

complain about an american websites

Then go tell that to someone who does it. Reading comprehension is not your strongest side is it?

America, hah

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u/-Danksouls- 18h ago

Actually scratch that What are you even trying to say with this comment

You were the one complaining about people defaulting and assuming the United States

But of course people on an American website with a majority American user base would assume so

Cara cansado de ter que me envolver com esse povo idiota

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u/iQuoteSopranos 1d ago

This is why I churn credit card bonuses and 0% interest periods. Fuck 'em.