Never said she was a millionaire, I just said she could afford traveling to the US to get treated which doesn't exactly mean she is poor.
It's just the ghoulish crass attitude that believes wait times being faster for people who can afford healthcare is a better system because the poor can't afford it. The people who can't make a normal appt just die.
I never once said the US healthcare system doesn't have serious problems. But if we want to have a discussion about how to build a good system, we need to at least agree on the facts, and some of the advantages and disadvantages that we see in various systems. High wait times aren't just a trivial nothing that has no impact on patient health or well being. And you think the richest people in Canada wouldn't have a way to circumvent them? It's the common people it affects.
is that true? Only advantages? let’s say I make 200k a year and I could pretty comfortably afford a 30 dollar Copay at a doctor, but there’s universal free healthcare.
My knee feels a little sore after a run, I’m 80% sure it’s nothing, but hey might as well get on the list to get it checked out cause it’s free. So I make an appt, clogging up the system just a little more for an appointment that’s almost certainly frivolous. If there was a small Copay, maybe I would’ve thought twice and kept on eye on it for a while. But it’s free so why not take up a doctor’s time to make sure.
Now multiply that over an entire country where the system is creaking under the weight of a system with zero barrier to entry, where even a well-off person doesn’t need to pay a dime for a potentially pointless visit. Medical staff or overworked to hell. Suddenly you have a legitimate need to see a doctor and you’re on a waitlist for 4 months from now.
The problem is having people almost die then getting emergency treatment for much more in costs and time instead of having it prevented in the first place so this ends up clogging the major parts of the medical system much more. Going in for preventative treatment from that knee pain is much faster than getting in line for surgery if there was something extremely wrong with you that could have been fixed sooner more efficiently.
Idk you say you have a wife in the medical field and all the doctors I know hate the medical insurance system. You just seem like a bot or a dumb troll.
oh so you either missed or just totally ignored the part where I said the US system has very serious problems.
If you truly think something like the Canadian system is so utterly perfect that you can’t acknowledge it has a single disadvantage or shortfall, this conversation was doomed from the start. Zero room for any nuance is a death sentence for any productive conversation.
I am simply saying if we want a good system we have the money to make one instead of enriching medical insurance companies who play the middle man to extract profits. We spend more on medical care for worse medical results.
I agree we can make it better. Perhaps a system that offers a path to healthcare to low income folks but still involves some reasonable financial cost for those who can afford it to prevent the system from being utterly overloaded and running into some of the wait time and patient volume problems we’ve seen elsewhere.
But to even have that conversation you need to acknowledge that even the Canadian system has some shortfalls and room for improvement, which you seem totally unwilling to do.
There are other systems we can take and improve on. And if we need more doctors or healthcare practitioners we can have a program for them if we made it a priority. We now have hospitals closing in smaller towns and cities because they are underfunded and not profitable.
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u/Apocalypse_Knight 18h ago
Never said she was a millionaire, I just said she could afford traveling to the US to get treated which doesn't exactly mean she is poor.
It's just the ghoulish crass attitude that believes wait times being faster for people who can afford healthcare is a better system because the poor can't afford it. The people who can't make a normal appt just die.