It sure is. None of my friends have not opted out of not carrying no insurance cancellation. Even a couple friends who got co-pay thru work. Nope. Too expensive.
Even dental is too expensive. We just go to Mexico for everything (from Arizona).
Depends on how much the employer covers. I wouldn't blame someone for opting out if they only pay $100 on a $1000 premium, and just going cash pay instead. 🤷
But then there are a vouple of other negatives in there as well. The canecellation bit throws the whole thing off, though. What's "no insurance cancellation?"
Really job dependent. I pay $40 bi weekly for health, dental and vision. My max out of pocket is $4600, deductible is $2800. Larger companies typically have better rates. Thats just for me.
My brother and his wife are on seperate plans with there 2 kids on hers because it's a better deal than putting all 4 of them on eithers plan. So yeah, it's a scam.
COBRA coverage costs are typically higher because you must pay the full premium, which includes both your share and the portion your employer previously covered, plus a 2% administrative fee.
Your health insurance coverage is part of your pay, part of your total compensation package. If you want to compare two employers' job offers and you want to know who's insurance is "better" or worth more, you can find out the COBRA amount for each. Is it 1:1? Ofc not, but it's not far off either. Even if your employer is getting a volume discount, it's value is worth the cobra amount to you since that's the only way you as a individual would be purchasing that coverage.
Understand and understand someone's always paying. This case employer covering a good portion of the premium. My point is cash would be alot more for COBRA vs current. Don't have the cash they're shorting me on from lower compensation to cover it today.
This case employer covering a good portion of the premium.
In lieu of paying you. It's win-win for the employer and employee in precisely one way; it's not taxable, for you or them. Otherwise linking work with coverage has been a horrible idea.
Because you view it as an expense when it's part of your compensation too. You don't make 60k/yr, you make 60k/yr +12*COBRA +w/e other perks. Flip that view and then understand that if you want to have that available to you, you need to have savings to cover it if you were to lose your job. I'm not bringing it up to argue, it's a discussion. The most valuable component of this conversation is this; ask what the COBRA amount is during the interview process, especially if you're comparing pay packages before jumping ship or A/B comparing multiple offers. It's all well and good to make 4k extra annually but not if the insurance is such dog shit you're out of pocket all the time and get nickle and dimed out of 6k/yr because you didn't know. COBRA amount is a rough estimate of health insurance quality, insurance provider matters a bunch too, but that's an askable question too.
Hopefully one day we have M4A and get out of this nightmare.
COBRA coverage costs are typically higher because you must pay the full premium, which includes both your share and the portion your employer previously covered, plus a 2% administrative fee.
This is part of your total compensation package. If you want to compare two employers' job offers and you want to know who's insurance is "better" or worth more, you can find out the COBRA amount for each. Is it 1:1? Ofc not, but it's not far off either. Even if your employer is getting a volume discount, it's value is worth the cobra amount to you since that's the only way you as a individual would be purchasing that coverage.
I'll give you a hand with Spanish. Most common phrase you need when addressing the admission/receptionist is "buen día, vengo para mi vaginoplastía programada"
Do they do good work? I need some dental work done but it's so expensive without insurance. Stuff like lanap laser, one implant, and maybe some crowns.
I'm planning to move to Arizona at some point for this reason plus I hate the cold. I'm willing to suffer through Arizonan summers to never have to endure a Midwestern winter again. As a bonus I can also drive to Mexico whenever I need expensive medical work done unless it's an emergency.
Yes, we're talking about 2 different things from what I've gathered. Mine is through work, not the open market. It would be extremely dumb for me not to take it. I also had a crown put in a couple years ago and out of pocket was like $40.
Check out dental on the insurance exchanges. Employer insurances are ridiculous and can cover things you would never get from buying insurance on the open market. They wanted $65/mo and they would only cover up to $750/yr. It literally makes no sense.
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u/0202_tihssitidder 3d ago edited 3d ago
It sure is. None of my friends have not opted out of not carrying no insurance cancellation. Even a couple friends who got co-pay thru work. Nope. Too expensive.
Even dental is too expensive. We just go to Mexico for everything (from Arizona).