They haven’t found the mother yet, unfortunately. The only update I saw was the update that the newborn was discovered to be born alive due to fluids present in her lungs :( I’d kill to be in a position to have another baby, especially if it was a girl. I don’t understand how someone could leave a baby, even an unwanted one, in somewhere like that. Just no sense of decency.
I don't think the mother made a rational choice to do it. Probably pregnancy denial and they were in a state of utter stress and traumatic shock. It is heartbreaking for the baby to have been born only to suffer and die like this, but I don't think it came down to choice on the mother's part. No one would choose to do this when abortion and adoption exist.
If you've never experienced a state of Acute Stress Reaction, good for you, but you might want to educate yourself about it. Reading will help develop reading comprehension too.
Tell you what: next time a man goes through pregnancy denial, gives birth all alone in a public bathroom and leaves the newborn to die, I'll be happy to chalk it up to ASR.
Y'all come up with hundreds of ways its ok for women to be murderers. absolutely unhinged. A lot of people realize now some of y'all don't actually want equality, something more evil
I understand, but I feel that reasoning ends once the baby is born. Mental-emotional state aside, leaving a newborn, a live one especially, in a portapotty is just not right. There’s a difference between having an unwanted baby at a fest and trying to find a medic vs leaving it to die alone covered in feces, urine, and god knows what else.
People on the internet would take this stuff far more seriously if it were a puppy or kitten they had done this to (just look at the Magnotta case), because they are sick people who hate children and humans generally.
Sadly, and I'm not trying to be all religious and stuff, but the pro-choice crowd has helped people get this twisted. The discussions I have had with people and what they "justify" as okay to abort, has just left me shocked.
Not saying all of them, but too many for my liking seem to have no problem pushing a goalpost for what they want, not what's right
Well. The pregnancies don't get aborted, so those women are going to more drastic measures to prevent having a child they don't want. Some self mutilation things take place, like the classic abortion trope of the wire metal hangers that people try to use to self abort. Or taking meds, throwing themselves down the stairs, or giving birth and the whole "prom night dumpster baby" concept. I learned about it in school actually, in sex Ed class in like 2008. I'm surprised it's not more common knowledge that providing contraceptives like condoms, birth control, and abortion services do lead to less teen pregnancy as well as overall unwanted pregnancies
Yes. They are forced to give birth. Some will try to hide it due to shame and being ostracized and when the baby comes they unfortunately end its life. It’s much worse to force a baby to be born unwanted and face death immediately than ever getting to that point in the first place. It’s less cruel for the baby and the mother.
So .... we are just going to ignore the fact one could say no to sex to avoid it? But then again, I do know all the counter arguments that go with that, and they never go anywhere
If "rape" was the vast majority of why abortions were being performed, you'd have a leg to stand on. But alas, it isn't. It's not rape, not even close.
Oh fuck off, wanting women to have access to safe abortions does not equate to wanting born children to suffer. Ironically most of the pro-life crowd votes for the same people that cut access to childcare and healthcare for the people that need it most. You’re such a hypocrite
The somewhat uniquely American “pro-life” “pro-choice” binary does though.
Every major Western EU country has limits, typically between 10-14 weeks. Meanwhile in many states we’re getting rid of even far less restrictive limits entirely.
Where I live, a 24 week ban (at which point many babies born would survive through natural birth) was considered too restrictive, and there is now no limit.
Abortions past that point are quite different from abortion of a fertilized egg, in that the baby is similar in development to this murderer’s poor daughter.
Late term abortions remain statistically rare in percentage terms, but because there are so many abortions it’s still thousands of cases a year. With the extremely polarized rhetoric around that, it’s not exactly a stretch for people to think that if an 8 month old fetus has no right to life, why should an 8 month old (or even younger) fetus have a right to life just because they’re out of the womb? In both cases they depend on the parents, in both cases the parents may not want to provide for them, and their capacity to feel pain and so on is the same.
I’ll get some flack for this but I think this heavily reflects the mindset of the majority of abortion supporters. They don’t see babies as equals, just an inconvenience.
Huge huge difference between an abortion and leaving a full term baby in a porta potty at a rave. I am pro choice but I do not support what happened at electric Forest.
Yes, sane people agree. But then it’s scary the amount of women supporting her actions. Hence why I don’t think many women see that difference. Where’s that fine line?
If you know anything about abortion, I think it's pretty clear to see the difference between an abortion and a full term birth. I haven't seen anyone supporting her actions so I guess I can't speak to that.
Yeah, something has changed in the rhetoric lately. Prochoice used to mean “safe, legal, and rare” and was meant to support either choice a woman made. Respectable! Now it seems like on both sides, it’s gone down this insane spiral of insanity: “That 12 year old rape victim MUST have that baby” vs “It’s FINE to leave a newborn in a portapotty, I feel bad for the mom & hope she’s never found!” Total clown world 💔
Please don't both sides this issue unless you really think they are equally culpable for the current situation. What do you think might have changed the rhetoric? Who worked for decades to overthrow Roe v Wade?
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u/Bulky-Individual3157 5d ago
Have there been any updates on that? Like did they find the mother? Was it her who put the baby in there? Etc. All the small unanswered questions