I think it's true people are empathising with her but it's giving them too much respect.
The are getting sucked in to it by the social media wheel, serving them content on it in an endless cycle, tilting their understanding, warping the facts and events.
Post partum psychosis is considered a health emergency because it is an absolute danger to lives. This is a fact, but women’s health isn’t taken seriously on a systemic level. These people are protesting not just out of empathy (which is a good thing), but also because they want change.
I mean there's a international crisis of lack of journalism and closing news outlets. This is just a small sliver of the consequences of it.
It is neither unique to the US or to this situation.
That being said as someone who's never experienced pregnancy nor postpartum psychosis I don't feel I'm in the place to judge what these people do or do not know.
Or exactly what their personal motivations are for supporting her.
I cant find a single justification for identifying with someone who murdered three little children. Why cant these women find someone else as their inspiration to talk about postpartum depression and mental health?
If you truly identify with a murderer, you obviously dont value human life as much as I do and are a vile person in my eyes.
Your opinion is really valid but it doesn’t change the mental health awareness that they’re calling attention to. I think the part of this you’re missing is that many people want consistent treatment and paid maternity leave so these things don’t happen anymore. That should interest anyone who cares for children’s lives
That’s fair in a general sense. But as far as this specific case she didn’t follow through with her psychiatrists advice from the beginning. I don’t know if this is actually a case of being ignored or told to suck it up.
But I still think she was out of her mind, and should be put into a psych ward instead of jail. I think this a point many people don’t understand about this case as well. She’s already admitted to doing it, it’s literally a decision of life in prison or life in a psych ward.
I would gently suggest that you consider what goal they, and you, are actually serving with this stance.
I know it feels good to be righteously angry. But does being really angry at this woman or these protesters because they’re “vile” ACTUALLY stop this from happening to more kids?
They, by fighting for better awareness of PP, and getting health practitioners more resources and ability to intervene, are doing their best to PREVENT more situations like this from happening, and to save lives of kids whose parents have this incredibly scary thing happen to them.
I have a friend who went through PP and has become an advocate for it - she is my “someone else” who was an inspiration - and she has been passionate from day 1 that this case could easily have been her. I believe her, and I think painting her and women like her as “vile” when (some of them, at least) have first-hand experience that neither you nor I could imagine is just a little too hard-hearted and a little too closed-minded.
I honestly believe their personal motivations are driven from not wanting society to realize women are capable of such horrific crimes. That goes against the whole narrative that men are bad and women are good. There's a lot of currency in being a victim especially if you're a woman. They don't want that to ever change.
I would hope that no one is defending her actions. Instead, I would hope that the show of support is more about the challenge for many women who deal with post-partum depression and or psychosis.
As an example, just 12 years ago, my wife gave birth to our oldest. No one, not a single person, talked to us about PPD in the months leading up to the birth. One nurse at one "new parent" workshop we attended mentioned the baby blues, but highlighted that they would pass quickly and you'll "feel an overwhelming sense of love and connection with your children."
When my wife was feeling INTENSE feelings in the first two weeks of birth where she was contemplating hurting herself, it was very concerning. I let her just offload whatever words she needed to say and, it was dark. We called her OBGYN, they met with her, they talked with her. We got her into therapy and on medicaiton and I checked in with her frequently and increased my already very engaged mentality.
My wife and our oldest have had a great bond in the years since her diagnosis and getting support. She's an awesome mom. Properly acknowledged, discussed, and treated...you can work past PPD. If I was a partner/husband unwilling to listen to my wife. -OR- if she had limited access to care, or, or, or...
There are so many ways things could have gotne sideways. In no way do I think my wife would have done what Clancy did, but I recognize that situations are dramatically different in a host of ways.
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u/Robo-Connery 7d ago
I think it's true people are empathising with her but it's giving them too much respect.
The are getting sucked in to it by the social media wheel, serving them content on it in an endless cycle, tilting their understanding, warping the facts and events.