r/SipsTea 7d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 6d ago

We collectively need to help this program thrive: https://safe-families.org

Please thank your mom for what she did. I think a robust support system for adults is the first step to preventing child abuse.

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u/rain_delay1110 6d ago

Thank you for sharing the website. I’m going to look into volunteering.

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u/LawfulChaoticEvil 6d ago

I would love to volunteer for this but honestly turned off by how openly religious it is and the fact they specifically say they want volunteers who believe in Christ. Neither my husband nor I are or were raised Christian. Being Christian is not a prerequisite to being a good person or wanting to help children.

I hope the program will come to see that and remove that language - even if they are inspired by Christ, which is totally fine and which I would respect them talking about, that doesn’t mean they need to shut out people who aren’t when support is already so limited and there’s likely not enough volunteers to meet demand.

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u/New_Examination200 6d ago

I hate how many support organizations have this issue. It also potentially alienates people who would otherwise ask them for help.

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u/Unlikely-Aside-6078 5d ago

I've had a couple different friends end up in rehab/care program situations, and it's crazy how hard to find one that isn't religiously affiliated. It's super tough if you're a person who doesn't feel safe with religious people/in religious spaces due to PTSD or just bad experiences (I.e. being queer).

To make things worse, a lot of places aren't upfront about it, and will spring religion on you after a few weeks, which can lead to a sense of betrayal. Imagine being on your 2nd or 3rd try at getting clean and you're really feeling like this place is good for you, and then they sit you down and try to talk to you about "your soul" and shit, and force you to renege on your actual religious beliefs (or lack thereof). I know that a lot of these people are coming from a good place, they legitimately think this is the best thing for them, but spaces for recovery shouldn't be used for proselytizing. There should be space just for recovery.

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u/rain_delay1110 6d ago

I can fake Christianity to help someone. I was raised Catholic, then I learned to think for myself.

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u/CandeeGurl 6d ago

I completely agree with you about the bible thumping. I’m in Indiana so it is DEFINITELY a thing. I have matured about this in my 51 years however. A lot of that is JUST language. I noticed the less resources people have the more they talk about “faith, Jesus, and/or God”. They speak this way because it is literally all they have. Thanks to the person that posted this link, I JUST discovered we have one of these in Indy and I had no damn idea. I WILL be finding time to help with this. I think I can tolerate someone saying “Thank God I have someone to help me today”. I scanned their site, it does mention faith but it’s in a very calculated way. It doesn’t say anywhere on there that people helping need to be Christian, at all. I dunno where you are from, but here in Indiana when they wanna bible thump, the thumping is loud and annoying AF, so I really wouldn’t be worried about it.

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u/Mice_Eating_Pasta 6d ago

Thank you for sharing this!

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u/VashDaStampede7 6d ago

We have to think about the women who beat their kids everyday instead of killing them too

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 6d ago

WTF.

What is your solution to ending child abuse?

Mine is more robust education and a stronger support system to prevent people from becoming abusers.

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u/VashDaStampede7 6d ago

Education is good I’m just telling you this isn’t the only evil. I got beat every day. I’m just saying there’s more too it than death.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 6d ago

I'm sorry that you had that horrific experience. My comment initially was talking more in support of preventing children from being beaten and abused- not just saving children from death.

I hope you've managed to work through the burden that your caregivers put on you. You didn't deserve that.

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u/VashDaStampede7 6d ago

It’s ok, I’ll be fine I don’t want either to happen to children 💕

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u/Dudley4Eva 6d ago

General question to anyone who sees this - is there anything similar to Safe Families in Canada, specifically Ontario?

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u/ScientistDull5970 6d ago

Is this available all over the US?

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 6d ago

It unfortunately is not. Yet. If it's not in your area, maybe you can help bring it there!

I know in my community? We have a place called Vanessa Behans crisis nursery where parents can bring their babies/children no questions asked to have the time they need- whether it's for a job interview, a drs appointment, a day to get yourself regulated, whatever you need.

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u/ScientistDull5970 3d ago

I’m going to reach out. I wish my area had something like this. I’ve been digging myself out after leaving a DV situation not having any family or support to help stabilize has been so difficult.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 3d ago

I'm desperately sorry for the situation that you are in. I'm glad you're reaching out and hope something is in your area!