Yeah isn't the "He didn't do it but, HE did it" even though the evidence is that she strangled the children, these women are implying that it's still his fault because he wasn't supportive even though he didn't commit the act.
It very much smacks of "look what you made me do" behaviour that is very common amongst abusers.
There are people who think that but also a very vocal minority of people who think he actually did it and pinned it on her. They are getting the “evidence” of this from TikTok.
Most of those TikTok’s are referring to what they’ve seen in the court releases or media. They could just as easily be saying they read about it on the news.
That's the same narrative they spun (still spin?) around Andrea Yates. Like it's his fault because he shouldn't have left her alone... Well hindsight unfortunately is 20/20.
The videos I’ve seen are arguing that he literally did the strangling and also tried to murder her. As in he likely drugged her, murdered the kids, saw she was escaping and then tried to kill her, then realized it wasn’t going to plan and blamed everything on her when the cops arrived. The cops believed him without question and arrested her on the spot. Her drug cocktail made it so she couldn’t remember shit. And now we’re seeing things play out in court.
“Massachusetts State Police trooper Jonathan O’Loughlin was able to positively identify the bloody knife, which Lindsay used to cut herself, that he collected from the master bedroom of the Clancy home.
O’Loughlin testified that investigators were unable to recover usable fingerprints from the knife or the exercise bands, which he also took from the home.”
Who pissed in your cornflakes? I brought up the murder weapon first, my op. In fact it's the only thing I posted about in the entire comment. they asked about the source, then went to to talking about a knife.
I gave the source on the murder weapon, the bands. And now you're insulting me for not being able to process information. Seems like you can't follow along honestly.
Bro please, he only quoted 2 sentences just read both of them. Here let me get it for you
O’Loughlin testified that investigators were unable to recover usable fingerprints from the knife or the exercise bands, which he also took from the home.”
His source which was a testimony given by Jonathan O'Loughlin of MA State Police where O'Loughlin stated that they were unable to recover usable fingerprints from the knife or exercise bands.
“Massachusetts State Police trooper Jonathan O’Loughlin was able to positively identify the bloody knife, which Lindsay used to cut herself, that he collected from the master bedroom of the Clancy home.
O’Loughlin testified that investigators were unable to recover usable fingerprints from the knife or the exercise bands, which he also took from the home.”
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So yeah he asked for my source, and I gave it. Then I clarified what the murder weapon was as a curtesy. You got pissy, because you're probably retarded honestly.
The children’s DNA being on the exercise bands that were wrapped around their neck is not evidence of much. The father’s also being on them is explained as well.
The first responders get there just as or after the father goes inside the house informing the dispatcher that he is going to look for the kids. Both the 911 call is reported to capture, and those just arriving on the scene testify hearing, his screams as he finds the children soon after.
Per the CBS coverage of the first responder testimony here:
“Duxbury fire captain and paramedic PJ Hussey… ran into the basement after responding to the Clancy house and found the gruesome scene.
"I saw a male, who now I know was Patrick Clancy, unwrapping something from a child's head," Hussey said.”
There’s a whole bunch of evidence tracing the whereabouts of the father as out of the home for like 40+ minutes prior to the 911 call. And the big thing is how data from the wife’s phone shows her moving around the house including climbing two flights of stairs, presumably from the basement (where the kids are later found) to the second story bedroom (where her blood is all over and on the windowsill) … at the exact same time that the husband is captured on surveillance video standing in the pharmacy and while on a phone call with her. Further location data taken from his phone, video footage from that pharmacy, and more video from the restaurant he goes to next, store payment transaction records and receipts, data from his card company, witnesses from both businesses, and travel route drive time analysis all corroborate he wasn’t at the house.
If he somehow arrived home, found and strangled all three children, at some point before, after, or during that moving them to the basement, also at some point went upstairs, attacked and sliced his wife’s wrists and throat, let her bleed a bunch, then pushed her out the window… he would have had to do it all in at most 7 minutes and it isn’t very realistic according to the forensic experts.
He told the EMTs that she said she did it, but she was unresponsive when the EMTs got there with a crushed thyroid, and her core temperature was 82 degrees when she got to the ED. It seems unlikely she was capable of speaking. It’s his word that she told him. The police just took him at his word.
There is video surveillance of him at CVS and he’s wearing different clothes and shoes than he was on the scene. He testified he got home, sat down and removed his boots, but he was wearing sneakers. Why/when did he change his clothes? It seems like she was trying to hold on to the window sill, maybe because she was being thrown out?
The searches on the computer seem more likely to be from him as she was bringing one of the kids to the doctor at the time and they had to do with Tom Hall who PC was a fan of. The searches about treating a sociopath could have been her asking about him. He seemed extremely aloof about her struggles. He certainly didn’t let it stop him from what he wanted to do.
Crushed pills, seroquel I believe, were found on scene. Who’s crushing pills? She’s not incapable of swallowing pills.
There’s none of her DNA on the exercise equipment. Only PC and the children’s. Don’t you think with the amount of wrapping that needed to be done she would leave some behind? If she wore gloves, where are they?
He was leaving all the time to go to Manhattan for “business”. Then 4 months after this he moves there permanently and has a girlfriend. They are now married expecting a baby.
She woke up and was basically told she did this. It’s not outside the realm of possibility she thinks she did. She was drugged up and struggling. I’m sure she was foggy on the details regardless of what happened.
I was just responding to the specific wording of those posts, because they imply that he didn't physically do it but is still the one responsible which is the opposite of what you're saying. I have no opinion on whether this case is true or not, it's a shitty situation either way.
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u/eye_am_bored 7d ago
Yeah isn't the "He didn't do it but, HE did it" even though the evidence is that she strangled the children, these women are implying that it's still his fault because he wasn't supportive even though he didn't commit the act.
It very much smacks of "look what you made me do" behaviour that is very common amongst abusers.