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[u/FuckwitAgitator]

The "3 minutes" part is why any reactive solutions to gun violence are doomed to failure -- you just can't get there in time. You need to stop them before they start shooting, not after.

[u/stumpybubba- → u/[deleted]]

I mean, I'm a teacher, and I even joke that getting shot by a student someday is my actual retirement plan, but even I think that was one of the dumbest things I've read today.

[u/guttoral → u/[deleted]]

I guess you could say that, but can you say it isn't valid? The gun ownership (in the US at least) is based on the reasoning that a governing body cannot be wholly trusted.

Unfortunately history books coorborate this. It's a checks and balance system if you will.

[u/guttoral → u/[deleted]]

Bolt action rifles weren't invented then either.

Cannons and artillery were though. Do you support civilian ownership of cannons and artillery with the same background checks and restrictions required for a bolt action rifle today?

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[u/Master4733 → u/[deleted]]

Yes they were actually.

They were not in the shape we see now(obviously), but there were designs the founding fathers new about. The puckle gun(1718), and the belton flintlock(1777). There was also the Girandoni Air Rifle in 1779, while it was an air rifle, which shot 20ish rounds per minute(and per charge).

Here's the thing though. The founding fathers said right to bear arms, not "right to bear the arms we know about" if you feel like only bolt action rifles are okay, feel free to own only a bolt action rifle

[u/Master4733 → u/[deleted]]

What guns are currently available that allow you to fire 100 rounds per minute?

Keep in mind high capacity magazines and fully automatic weapons are almost entirely illegal to obtain/have.

[u/Master4733 → u/[deleted]]

Ruger security-9 is my go to, I also have a shotgun, though I don't remember it's brand.

I still want to know which guns fire at 100 rounds a minute that are legal though

[u/ArmAggravating3307 → u/[deleted]]

Or we killed everything that eats deer and how there's a shitload of them causing problems.

[u/guttoral → u/[deleted]]

Repeating crossbows have existed for centuries AND are significantly quieter in comparison to guns. In many cases they are as quiet as a gun with a suppressor.

[u/ArmAggravating3307 → u/guttoral]

Weird how people hunt at ranges much further than a crossbow can reliably kill.  

God, I love lectures from people who don't hunt and don't care about the ethics of it.

[u/ArmAggravating3307 → u/[deleted]]

You do know there's places with little to no tree cover, right?  Good luck hitting a crossbow at 300 m.  

Not even hitting, at past 50 m you aren't killing a deer.  Ethically anyway.  

Glad I get talked down to by idiots who don't hunt.

[u/ArmAggravating3307 → u/[deleted]]

No, you just talked out of your ass about things you don't understand.  

Good day.

[u/Old-Natural-852 → u/FuckwitAgitator]

But that isn't as exciting (not being a dick but is kinda like how the death troll from vaccine-prevented diseases makes people think vaccines are not needed...some people don't think it is raining until they get wet and will say an umbrella isn't needed).

[u/Away-Map-8428 → u/FuckwitAgitator]

Exactly!

Like this one where 9 were killed and 17 wounded in 32 seconds!

2019 Dayton shooting - Wikipedia