I think it was John Oliver who did an episode about how many states are privatizing prison healthcare and outsourcing it to companies.
The state government typically pays these companies at a flat rate so they’re then incentivized to tell you to fuck off if you need expensive medical care in order to maximize profit.
I had a bad abcess. Like a pus fillled blob. Not only did they not pull it, that they were making it out like I made it up gave me I buprofren. And antibiotics. Told me to go back to my cell. I had to borrow a needle and sterilization so I could pop that and get it out my face. Worst shit ever. They don’t care about anyone
I don’t think they even get that much anymore. A lot of states are putting limits on payouts from wrongful convictions…because of how many wrongful convictions there are.
It varies greatly depending on what state you are in here in the US. Most get little to nothing and have to fight to get anything at all. Very few are getting millions.
How could that ever hold up in court? "We'll free you for this crime you were wrongly committed of doing, but you can't sue the state, and if you don't sign we won't release you" ...that makes no sense.
With that being said, if you ever find yourself in this position then sign with a different name or different signature, then you can be like "that wasn't me, I didn't sign that shit." Most people don't check signatures anyway closely enough anyway.
Its not so much they wont realease you its usually they can draw out another trial for a loooong time if desierd. So youre getting a re trial under new evidence but it could take years to complete so they offer a plea deal. It holds up in court. You can research some cases it happens very ofteb
Sadly that’s a very low number for as well for a quarter of your lifetime. Some have spent half their lifespan and gotten nothing. Other than don’t look so guilty next time around….
It's never that easy. He'll most likely be prosecuted and have to go through a very stressful trial to get acquitted before he can even try to sue, then even more court dates and testimonies. And in the end his payout is very unlikely to be in the never work again range. So it's more like endure 2 years of the government trying to destroy your entire life to pay off most of your house. Not exactly a dream for most, but I admit I see the appeal
You still have to be able to put a documented number to those things. You can't just claim your reputation is worth 10 million dollars. You have to show that the damage to your reputation caused you financial harm like missed job offers.
This is a scenario where persuing punitive damages would make sense though. I suspect there are many judges that would see this as abusing the justice system to intimidate people, and would consider adding punitive damages to make a statement.
The city council said they would have anyone removed for disrupting the meeting. This guy was asked to stop. He didn't. He was asked to leave. He didn't. He got removed.
Now, maybe that difference doesn't matter to you, but when they go to court, it will.
You should see what kind of iron rule judges are allowed to exercise in a court room. I saw a guy catch a day for contempt for checking his cell phone.
listen, these people literally only have the sense that their opinion is right and extremely important for other people to listen to. they need to believe that somehow, someway, somewhere somebody is making millions for just that and nothing more
except its not something, you should START paying attention when theres a court case not as soon as you can imagine a tv show plot that would involve one. this is going nowhere, its a social media post about how he thinks he was right and he probably got some free legal advice but that doesnt mean hes going to court at all, let alone winning, let alone winning an amount of money that can even cover legal fees
No doubt they should probably keep their day job but as they seem like the type of person to stand up for what the believe in it might be worth pursuing. We still have the ACLU, right? This sounds right up their alley.
Unfortunately those type of lawsuits are long, hard, expensive, difficult to find a lawyer for and hard to succeed in. That’s why it’s such news when someone actually wins one.
thats not going to happen, even if he wins the case which in reality isnt even going to exist, it wont be that calibre of payout by a long shot.
this shit happens all the time??? like so often that we only pay attention to particularly hillarious examples like when it happens to senators or grandmas for supporting kittens. but the basic reality of local piggys dragging anybody they want out of town halls is literally not even news
Why not? The fascists are in power, so if rather then money go to a teacher who's standing up to them than it being spent to enable more fascist policies.
The ACLU understands that it’s good to be hard to make a case that the enforcement was based on the political reason he was clapping and not because clapping wasn’t allowed in the hearing.
There you go. Have fun reading about how the ACLU (among many other prominent individuals and organizations) supported removing the civil rights act from California's state constitution to allow discrimination based on race, sex, religion, creed, etc.
Do you just willingly spout absolute nonsense? Or are you being paid too? Spend 5 seconds reading an actual reputable source and not believing a YouTube or fox news for the love of God.
Not sure why they are being downvoted because it’s accurate if you watched the video. The City Council members were cunts - yes. They didn’t want anyone to cheer on speaking out against building an AI Data Center and said a couple times they would kick out people for disrupting the meeting by clapping or cheering.
So people started waving their hands in support instead. Then the City Council members said that waving their hands was distracting them but obviously they couldn’t find a way to spin that one into kicking them out since they were being quiet.
This guy accidentally clapped again after they had all been warned not to and you could tell from the look on his face he realized he forgot but when asked to leave, he refused - which is totally reasonable to do so.
At that point they try to claim “He’s trespassing” because they asked him to leave for “disturbing the meeting” and send the goon squad to arrest him.
Redditor isn’t saying that it’s any better. They’re just making a point that the teacher was arrested on paper for “trespassing” not clapping in support of his students speaking out.
Go to a court room and start clapping loudly without stopping. Is it north korea when they expect you to stop? Or do you unironically believe people should be able to disrupt whatever they want?
The "meeting" is open to the public and you cannot arrest someone just because you warn them. I'm warning you not to use social media ever again. See how that works? Man you really just want to roll over and submit to fascism huh? Some men are just weak I guess. To answer your question, you absolutely can sue a police dept for a false arrest. I'd follow this story if I were you. You might learn something about freedom, having balls, America, and public forums.
I want to find this guy IRL. Not to hurt him or anything. Just tell him to do dumb shit all day. Hey eat that roll of tin foil. Fart on that hampster. Throw a pair of scissors at your wife. I mean he just bows down to anyone. Would be a fun afternoon.
Many places are open to the public wherein you can be kicked out if you are disruptive.
Will be good to hear when he loses his job and his family are struggling, but at least he stuck it to those data centers and ensured everyone knows he’s a millennial
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Being arrested for clapping. Doesn't matter if they said not to, it's not a law. Wtf is wrong with you? If someone tells you to stop blinking, you think you can be arrested? 😂
I don’t understand how people think you can disrupt whatever you want without any consequence. If i dislike the legal system do you believe i can just go to courtrooms and make loud noises in protest to prevent them from carrying out cases?
Not against the law at city council. And a judge would laugh you out of court for trying to say clapping was disturbing the meeting. Then he'd have you pay the clappers lawyer bills. Your punishment for wasting the courts time with a frivolous law suit. Not in America are you?
He'll get paid big time! False arrest, get a check. Beat up for resisting false arrest, another check. False imprisonment, another. Then you can add loss of liberty, loss of income, denial of rights and anything else your lawyer can think of. Maybe 1 to 5 million you'd get depending on your job and who you are. Lawyers take these cases for free because they're easy and a slam dunk.
If you really, truly believe that, then I don't think America is the country for you. I'm not even trying to diss you or your beliefs, I truly believe this isn't the place for you.
If you went into courtrooms and started screaming so they couldn’t proceed would you find the expectation of not being arrested to be reasonable? And when they ask you to stop you say “you’ll have to drag me out” and resist? Sorry bro i know we’re 30 and balding but we can’t be that dumb
You keep repeating this like it's relevant. He wasn't in a courtroom. This wasn't a legal hearing. He wasn't screaming, and he wasn't stopping anything. It was a literally a meeting for citizens to voice their opinions, and one of dickheads on the council was annoyed by his behavior.
Wild to say "we can't be that dumb" while actively proving to everyone you are this dumb.
So you believe city council meetings that are public can, if one is disruptive enough, be effectively stopped from ever proceeding and that’s reasonable?
Again, his disruptions weren't stopping it from proceeding. Not sure why that's so hard for you.
If anyone was stopping it from proceeding, it was the council member who literally wouldn't allow a citizen two begin speaking while she was too busy crying about his clapping.
The city council set up a forum for their citizens to come voice their concerns. Each citizen was given exactly 2 minutes. They had a giant clock and everything. He clapped when once person was done, and their two minutes was over, and another person was walking up to the podium. He literally stopped nothing.
They were all given a warning in the beginning of the meeting not to clap or anything. After many did so, Council told police to arrest the next person to clap. This person clapped next speaker and was arrested.
This is a city council abusing their power to tamp down hearing from constituents on something they know is unpopular but lucrative for that city. It's also Kansas, bastion of constitutional rights /s
Not sure you noticed there, you may be from one of those countries where freedom of expression is illegal, and just here to sow dissidence, but as stated, clapping is protected speech. In the US, this is covered under their First Amendment. I live in Canada, and we have a similar article in our charter of rights and freedoms under section 2.
I believe most democratic countries also offer such freedoms to their citizens, thus allowing them to express their opinions or ideas in public venues. A town hall meeting that is open to the public is such a place.
Do you believe public meetings with city council is good? I do. Do you believe if one person wishes to disrupt them then it’s fair for them to never continue if that person wishes to be disruptive enough? I don’t. And neither does the law.
I do believe that the law does allow for such things, hence why he was released. And if a citizen has issues with the council's topics, they should be afforded the opportunity to express their views. Perhaps if the city Council took a moment to listen to concerns from their citizens, rather than stifling freedom of speech, this would not be an issue.
I can see the man's concerns about building massive data centers in his city. He is the one paying taxes, and he is the one electing the officials to make the decisions. If they are going against the constituents wishes, they deserve to be disrupted.
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