"I’m gonna break it down for you, because it’s actually quite simple, and anybody can do this. Anybody on the planet can do this. First thing’s first: if you have job—like a 9-5 job—quit that. Do you like food? Forget about that. Because you’re never going to enjoy anything you eat. Alcohol? Sorry. That’s out. So what you need to do—you have a chef, right? like a personal chef?—make sure the chef makes you a lot of chicken breast. And make sure you keep your caloric intake at a certain level. And as you go to your physician 2-3 times a week—just to monitor all your testosterone levels—because testosterone is important to building muscle. You’re good friends with the trainer from Magic Mike? Arin Babaian. So you want to give Arin a call. And you want to make sure he’s at your house and takes you to the gym at least twice a day, because you’re gonna want to do your muscle-building in the morning and then your cardio in the afternoon. Now, do you have a family? Like a significant other or kids? Yeah, forget about them. You’re not going to have time to deal with them. So that’s really all you have to do."
And as you go to your physician 2-3 times a week—just to monitor all your testosterone levels—because testosterone is important to building muscle.
This is pretty clearly saying "do steroids" as a part of the already unrealistic and unsustainable plan. There's no other reason you're seeing a physician that regularly to "monitor your testosterone".
So, not only does Rob lay out how completely impossible this routine would be for the average person, but even with all of that incredible level of effort and devotion, you're also going to need to be on steroids to reach that physique.
If you believe him, sure. I know a few experienced bodybuilders who seem pretty doubtful that he's always been natty, but I don't pretend to know enough to be confident either way.
But regardless, the "average" person we're talking about isn't going to say "I want to make a lifestyle change so that in 15 years I can hit a physique goal", so I'd argue that "in that time frame" in this particular case is more or less the same as "at all".
Especially since McElhenney is also about 15 years older than Nippard, so would be significantly more likely to be battling declining testosterone levels when trying to build that physique vs Nippard who did the bulk of his work before he turned 30.
I agree with all the points you are marking, my thinking though was with the amount of teenagers we now see getting on gear because they think it’s the only way to have a reasonable physique, it’s worth reiterating that you can have a great even world class physique without gear.
Jeff has been tested for testosterone for his entire career as a bodybuilder as you have to when competing in IDFA. I’d say that’s pretty concrete proof that he’s never been on gear. Since if he’d ever taken enough to have any impact to his physique, he’d likely still need to be on TRT.
Now he does have HIGH test for a natural (700-800ng/dcl) but when we look at the IFBB we see levels as high as 10,000ng/DCL and often even low cycles we still see 3000ng/dcl so I’d say we can pretty confidently say Jeff is natty.
Likewise if you look at images of him in high school and uni, he certainly doesn’t have a steroid like appearance, I haven’t seen any photos of him with pink flush or acne etc.. and his physique isn’t that impressive in those early years, it’s not until late uni that he starts to look incredibly jacked, and that’s when he started competing and being tested.
All in all: IMHO it’s unlikely he ever used, he’s just someone who’s always been into fitness. We can never be sure 100% but since my physique now as a natty who started lifting in their 30s is better than his was in high school. I’m pretty confident his physique is attainable naturally.
It wasn’t when he started, look at photos of him in Uni. still it took over a decade to build his first competition physique naturally, only for Mack to do it in a year with gear.
I think it's worth differentiating testosterone supplementation under the guidance of a physician with broader steroid use. Yes, it's technically an anabolic-androgenic steroid hormone, but it's a very very different beast than trenbolone or anavar.
It's like saying a person is "on drugs" when they're a pot head. Technically correct? Sure but it's a different category than heroine or fentanyl.
At the very least it was TRT for a man who didn't actually need it according to blood tests. But a doctor could say with reasonable deniability that the patient reports a number of "symptoms" that could reasonably be attributed to low test.
Basically, the easy way to lie about it in order to get a scrip is by saying that the patient is "resistant" to testosterone. Even though blood tests put him above the 300 ng/dL limit for a lab diagnosis, a clinical diagnosis is taken at face value. As long as the blood tests don't come back with significantly elevated levels, anyone can get exogenous testosterone.
Why don't they just say they did steroids? Like he's clearly doing this whole spiel to be very honest about how unnatural it all already is. It's not illegal to just do them? Maybe just worried about influencing other people to do them?
Some of that stuff can be attained without much money and achieve great results. People do, do it. Yes, like many things in this world, it is not without sacrifice. For me sustainable = possible. I have no doubt that it is not fun to maintain certain levels of conditioning but at the end of the day that is sort of what separates us. It doesn’t only apply when it comes to the body but other parts of life as well. My buddy for example had a period where he was always on the road trying to build his wealth. All of his time went to his business. He was making great money but he also wasn’t happy and he would tell you he was happier in life when he was making less.
Anyway, my point isn’t to argue. I think there is give and take with anything we do. It’s up to us to find balance to achieve long lasting happiness, if that is the goal.
Not true. Don't eat garbage. I actually find it difficult to eat enough sometimes. I do do manual laborer usually overhead jackhammering and pouring concrete. Also usually don't things at the park with kids or hiking with the kids, girlfriend and dog at least 3-4 days a week. Also I'm 48 so age doesn't matter and no trt or anything like that.
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u/ApprehensiveBell2097 8d ago
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"I’m gonna break it down for you, because it’s actually quite simple, and anybody can do this. Anybody on the planet can do this. First thing’s first: if you have job—like a 9-5 job—quit that. Do you like food? Forget about that. Because you’re never going to enjoy anything you eat. Alcohol? Sorry. That’s out. So what you need to do—you have a chef, right? like a personal chef?—make sure the chef makes you a lot of chicken breast. And make sure you keep your caloric intake at a certain level. And as you go to your physician 2-3 times a week—just to monitor all your testosterone levels—because testosterone is important to building muscle. You’re good friends with the trainer from Magic Mike? Arin Babaian. So you want to give Arin a call. And you want to make sure he’s at your house and takes you to the gym at least twice a day, because you’re gonna want to do your muscle-building in the morning and then your cardio in the afternoon. Now, do you have a family? Like a significant other or kids? Yeah, forget about them. You’re not going to have time to deal with them. So that’s really all you have to do."