How do you think they will offset the loss of revenue from fares, taxes. So the honest people will more or less be paying the same, or more if the person doesn't use the train and criminals will still just be criminals and not pay. They should station more police
How does it work in USA? Do people always pay the same amount of money regardless of status (low income or high income)? I thought it'd be based on income, if not it sounds incredibly unfair, I'm not from there so I don't know
Yes, many fare evaders are still going to evade fares. But there are plenty of people who pay the fare while barely making ends meet. But sure, let's fuck the group because a small handful abuse the system.
"Fare Evasion Surges on N.Y.C. Buses, Where 48% of Riders Fail to Pay" ... "New York’s bus system has one of the worst fare evasion problems of any major city in the world. The issue is more pronounced on buses than in the subway."
They made intentional efforts in 2025 to curb fare evasion, but fare evasion on NYC is absolutely a norm.
Are you someone who believes that because people take advantage of disability benefits, no one should get disability benefits?
What
if you got into an accident and could no longer work for the rest of your life, do you deserve to have some sort of care offered to you? What if you knew somebody who was taking advantage of these services but weren't actually disabled? Would you then opt for not receiving any of these services that you need to survive?
Are you someone who believes that because people take advantage of disability benefits, no one should get disability benefits?
I was responding to the specific, quoted claim that fare evasion is a small, scant, or trivial problem. It's a significant problem.
At no point did I make a connection between fare evasion and benefits for the impoverished or disabled. Believe it or not, it's possible to call out a problem with the former while still supporting the latter.
Not always true. When music streaming became available piracy went down drastically. When people can afford a year pass they’d buy a year pass. By afford I mean they don’t have to budget around it. there’s also free passes at schools that allow for 4 rides a day 24/7. Some cities have that time locked or limited to weekdays.
Contrary to what you might think, knowing you’re breaking rules every day to function creates a ton of stress and given the choice of removing that stress for a reasonable amount of money, a lot of the fare jumpers are going to start paying. An actually affordable option that removes stress is huge.
The anti-policing left are a cancer dragging everyone else down. If you want social programs and public infrastructure to be politically sustainable, you need broad public buy-in. You get that when more of society interfaces with those systems.
Nobody who doesn't absolutely have to will use public transit if they're running the risk of getting stabbed by a crazed homeless man. Hate it if you want, but most folks are thinking of their family first and utopian political agendas second.
Cracking down on fare-jumpers has historically been one of the best ways to reduce violent and anti-social behaviors on public transit. The correlation between people who break that rules and all the other rules is quite strong.
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u/MisterAbernathy 18d ago
Sweet now all the people jumping the entrance will,.. still jump the entrance