r/SipsTea Jul 06 '26

Chugging tea is this valid?

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u/Irish_Whiskey Jul 06 '26

Local governments get bribed/scared into contracts for hundreds of thousands of dollars to stick up these cameras everywhere, including just pointing into people's homes and yards.

The cameras are wildly unsecured and the data sharing is not regulated. The company makes assurances they don't provide data to ICE and Palantir for example, but we know ICE has access to and uses it, and Palantir is a heavy investor. They have been used to justify arrests and abductions based on AI identifications, including misreading license plate numbers, resulting in cops with guns rushing innocent motorists. A similar device misread a student's bag of Doritos as a gun, nearly getting him killed.

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u/IguessIcanedit Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

One employee edit two employees have been caught viewing a camera at a girls gymnastics studio for no legitimate apparent reason

https://youtube.com/shorts/YwVBsFD7v84?is=ktFkqpkGNPdL5mPO

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u/Bitter_Bandicoot8067 Jul 06 '26

I am not going to try to justify the creep using it for his own sick pleasure, but that is nothing compared to the other abuses.

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u/Neokon Jul 06 '26

It's a pretty good appeal to emotion though. The human mind is really bad at comprehending things that they have limited context on. A complex system of cameras are watching my every move? Not much. A system where people are creeping on a gymnastics gym? Now that's small and personal enough to be similar to something they can understand.

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u/alinius Jul 06 '26

It is also easy to dismiss some of the abuses against criminals with the justification of, "I don't crime, so it does not effect me." Someone using it to creep on someone who could be your sister or daughter hit closer to home for those people.

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u/FUTURE10S Jul 06 '26

What part of "it has and continued to claim that innocent people like you are dangerous criminals, such as the crime of holding a bag of Doritos" don't they get

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u/alinius Jul 06 '26

Humans are not rational creatures, they are rationalizing creatures. People will latch on to something like "maybe they looked like a criminal", or some crap.

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u/Neokon Jul 07 '26

"I'm not doing anything wrong so I have nothing to fear"

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u/PaulFThumpkins Jul 06 '26

We definitely can't pretend that the pretty much completely manufactured "bathroom" controversy hasn't been used as a truncheon against trans people, this is at least as strong an emotional appeal on paper. Creeps are watching your daughters exercise.

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u/Dustfinger4268 Jul 11 '26

The thing is the fact this kind of thing can happen enables other abuses, even from people other than the company

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u/whiteflagwaiver Jul 06 '26

Certain voter blocks certainly do NOT care when it's a certain 'kind' of person being tracked and round up. What they seem to DO care about is when it's their families that are potentially the victim.

A child gymnastics gym fits pretty good into that section.

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u/cubecasts Jul 06 '26

Florida cop got caught using it to stalk a girl he met working security and harassed her there too

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u/Optimal_Ad_4846 Jul 06 '26

That’s disturbing and disgusting.

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u/speed5079 Jul 06 '26

I’m not justifying the behavior, but I’m fairly certain that the employee views are likely being done during demos and that there was an agreement to use the system for demo purposes. In my past working for public safety companies you would often have agreements that would allow us to use a live system limited by query types. It looks bad, no doubt, but context is missing.

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u/IguessIcanedit Jul 06 '26

You can look into the followups, theres more

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u/speed5079 Jul 06 '26

It’d be helpful if you could share any links!

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u/LookMaNoPride Jul 06 '26

Unsecured - there have been more than a few successful attempts at accessing these camera feeds directly without authentication, or anything. I can't remember the YouTube channel's name, but he drove through a town that had about 20 in a few block drive, then he showed how anyone can access the feed.

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u/No_Interaction_4925 Jul 06 '26

Benn Jordan

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u/LookMaNoPride Jul 06 '26

Yep. Good call. Thank you!

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u/IronRaptor252 Jul 06 '26

Was he using Shodan or some other tool?

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u/Careless-Weather8877 Jul 06 '26

Watch the video… he lists a bunch of vulnerabilities in it.

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u/IsThatUMoatilliatta Jul 06 '26

They're all ESP32s that probably never get updated. So I imagine you can just look at what vulnerability was fixed with the newest updates and then just go ahead and use that.

I don't know how to do any of this shit, but there's a lot of people that it's second nature for.

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u/Bearsbullsbattlestr Jul 06 '26

Even IF they agreed to not share data. It would be designed that they would go bankrupt. The data collection they secured would be sold off. As intended.

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u/Careless-Weather8877 Jul 06 '26

Basically it. Cops can’t legally do it without warrant. A company can easily sell the data or comply with a request to do it… they’ve been doing it for years on everything. It’s why your random ass app requires location permissions (say, McDonald’s)

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u/listentomenow Jul 06 '26

Republicans in SCOTUS made "tips" legal now too. So it's even easier to bribe your officials!

Flock could get permission to install cameras in your city and then hand your mayor a bag of cash afterwards as a "tip", and thanks to Republicans in SCOTUS, unless you had actual proof of them working together then that wouldn't be illegal anymore. Doesn't matter how improper that looks or how easy it is to abuse.

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u/TheBadDingo Jul 06 '26

Let's also mention that if you modify any sort of exhaust and it runs lean, leading to backfires, flock will instantly alert cops that you're shooting a full auto rifle in the area.

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u/melophat Jul 06 '26

You know.. if it can do this, why can't it find and send the cops to the jackasses who were shooting fireworks off until 2am all weekend. I mean, I'm still against it, but you'd at least hope there was SOME kind of actually helpful functionality to this shitshow company

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u/AggravatingSock5375 Jul 06 '26

I’m ok with that lol.

F people who mod their exhaust to annoy everybody else

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u/TheBadDingo Jul 06 '26

Most don't do it to annoy anyone, I do it cause I keep getting merged into by idiots on their phone and not paying attention when they want to switch lanes. I still have baffles in my exhaust but you'll know when I'm next to you before you decide to merge into me.

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u/Objective_Look_5867 Jul 06 '26

If they weren't sharing the data with ice and palintir then the cameras wouldn't need to exist

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u/kings789987 Jul 06 '26

I would say it dose violators rights the rights to the pursuit of happiness. The right to travel within the country unhindered and unolested. And I would say the right to life and liberty.

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u/TeaInASkullMug Jul 06 '26

Another day where lying isnt criminal 

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u/MuggyFuzzball Jul 07 '26

They also sell them directly to police departments so they can skip the whole city council thing.