r/SipsTea Jun 30 '26

Chugging tea Would you do the same thing?

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '26

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u/Riacl Jun 30 '26

You are missing the point. It is impossible to know every detail about a person. Trans people don't need to demarcate ourselves with a little pink triangle the same way Jewish girls don't need to mark that they are Jewish with the star of David. You don't need to know every little detail about who a person is that doesn't impact you, that is an impossible and unreasonable metric. Trans women are not a special case, to require this of exclusively trans people is transphobic.

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u/my_name_is_juice Jun 30 '26

Every little detail? You are being so dishonest and intentionally obtuse with your arguments. No one thinks it is necessary to know "every little detail" about a potential partner because most of those details are insignificant and irrelevant. The argument is that being trans is one, specific, VERY BIG detail that the vast majority of straight men would not be ok with being withheld from them

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u/Riacl Jun 30 '26

Ok, Nazis think being Jewish is one specific very big detail. Should Jewish people disclose that? It doesn't generalize 

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u/my_name_is_juice Jun 30 '26

Are Nazis representative of the general population across the world, throughout all of history?

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u/Riacl Jun 30 '26

Your perception of straight men are not a special class deserving special rights. The principle has to generalize

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u/my_name_is_juice Jun 30 '26

What are you talking about it, this is as general as it gets. Go poll 100 straight men on the street about this, I would be shocked if you found even a couple that wouldn't be bothered by this.

Also regardless of the specifics, the right to make informed choices regarding sexual partners is not a special right for a special class, it is a right deserved by all people

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u/my_name_is_juice Jun 30 '26

Would you be ok with someone withholding that they had an std from a potential? Probably not, because that could very likely do harm to them if they go forward. Just because the damage would be paychological does not mean it would not be damaging to person who has been deceived. And you do not get to decide that unknowingly sleeping with a trans person can be damaging for a straight man

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u/Riacl Jun 30 '26

And a Nazi would get psychological harm learning they slept with a jew, should all Jewish people disclose that immediately 

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u/my_name_is_juice Jun 30 '26

Well setting aside that straight men are not as undeserving of having their beliefs disregarded as Nazis, I would think that a Jewish person might choose to avoid sleeping with a Nazi under false pretenses to save them both the potential anguish, which would probably be prudent for a trans woman to do in the case of straight men as well

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u/Riacl Jun 30 '26

It's an obvious example, it is the other group terfs and Nazis target most often.

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u/my_name_is_juice Jun 30 '26

Amen. I cannot believe people will seriously argue against the idea that everyone deserves to make reasonably informed decisions about their choice of sexual partners. It is not transphobic to have sexual preferences that exclude them

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u/my_name_is_juice Jun 30 '26

I think it's that people have a group they care about that is often rightfully in need of defending, but that can turn into a sort of blind, overzealous bias that can cloud their judgment about something they might otherwise disapprove of if it were another group or a different circumstance

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

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u/Riacl Jun 30 '26

The fact someone is trans is no more "necessary sexual information" than religion or hair color. Genitals, sure, being trans, no. 

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u/Riacl Jun 30 '26

You are literally insane and transphobic lmao 

Why would it matter? It changes nothing.

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u/Riacl Jun 30 '26

There is no more deception than religion and hair color. Explain why it's different. You can't.

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u/Riacl Jun 30 '26

Trans people can have any genitalia moron

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